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2003-10-31 15:51 | User Profile
Jews Are "Race Of Perpetrators": German MP
ââ¬Å"Jews were active in great numbers in the leadership as well as in the Cheka (Soviet secret police) firing squads," Hohmann
By Khaled Schmitt, IOL Correspondent
BERLIN, October 31 (IslamOnline.net) - A German member of parliament caused a political furor, expected to increase in coming days, for a speech in which he played down the Holocaust and described Jews as a "race of perpetrators".
On its website Thursday, October 30, the weekly news magazine Der Spiegel reported that lights were shed on Hohmannââ¬â¢s speech ââ¬â almost a month later ââ¬â after a transcript of the speech was published on the web site of the CDU in his hometown of Neuhof.
Deputy Martin Hohmann of the conservative opposition Christian Democrats (CDU) said in a speech to constituents on the 13th anniversary of German reunification October 3 that ââ¬Åprimarily Jewish Bolsheviks were responsible for crimes against civilians during the Russian revolutionââ¬Â.
"Jews were active in great numbers in the leadership as well as in the Cheka (Soviet secret police) firing squads," Hohmann said according to a transcript of the speech on the web site of the CDU in Neuhof.
"Thus one could describe Jews with some justification as a Taetervolk (roughly translated by Agence France-Presse (AFP), race of perpetrators).
His speech is ââ¬Åââ¬Åa reach into the lowest drawer of disgusting anti-Semitism," Spiegel
"That may sound horrible. But it would follow the same logic with which one describes the Germans as a race of perpetrators."
The head of Germany's Jewish community, Paul Spiegel, fiercely attacked Hohmann calling his speech "political disgraceââ¬Â and ââ¬Åa reach into the lowest drawer of disgusting anti-Semitism".
Spiegel said he had spoken to CDU leader Angela Merkel and "she shared my views", according to AFP.
Dieter Graumann, a leading member of the Jewish community in Frankfurt, the largest city in Hohmann's home state, said he was appalled by the remarks.
"Anti-Semitism in Germany has gone beyond the pub tables and arrived at the German Bundestag," he told public radio Hessischer Rundfunk.
The Hesse state chapter of the CDU was quick to distance itself from Hohmann's views. The chapter's general secretary, Michael Boddenberg, demanded that Hohmann "refrain from such unhistorical, false and unacceptable comments".
Deputies from Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats called for Hohmann's dismissal from the Bundestag, the lower house of parliament.
Hohmann now faces anti-Semitism charges and his speech was removed from the Internet soon after the story broke, according to AFP.
Hohmann defended himself by asserting that his speech about the Jews was no more ââ¬Åa reproduction of similar statements by the late U.S. industrialist Henry Ford.
It is widely expected, though, that the Jewish Community in Germany ââ¬â about 100,000 and enjoys overwhelming influence and unusual advantages within the German society ââ¬â would launch a tense campaign against Hohmann.
During the first half of this year, the Jewish community has mobilized all their potentials and waged a fierce campaign against former Economy Minister and Head of the Arab-German Society Jurgen Moellemann for his anti-Israel views.
Moellemann, who died Thursday, June 5, in a controversial parachute jump, has always accused Israel of ââ¬Åstate terrorismââ¬Â and defended the Palestiniansââ¬â¢ legitimate rights.
It is not yet known whether Moellemann committed suicide or has been murdered.
2003-10-31 16:08 | User Profile
After nearly sixty years of Zionist occupation, the word about god's darlings is getting out in Germany. It's a good sign.
-Z-
2003-10-31 17:05 | User Profile
More and more, people around the world are naming the Jew. The more it's done by some, the more likely others will feel emboldened to do the same. Maybe we can hope for a snowball effect.
The head of Germany's Jewish community, Paul Spiegel, fiercely attacked Hohmann calling his speech "political disgraceââ¬Â and ââ¬Åa reach into the lowest drawer of disgusting anti-Semitism".
In other words, Hohmann was telling the truth about Jews, and Jew Spiegel doesn't like it.
Hohmann now faces anti-Semitism charges and his speech was removed from the Internet soon after the story broke, according to AFP.
He joins the ranks of honorable men throughout the centuries who were persecuted for having the courage to speak the truth. His words, however, will not have been in vain.
Moellemann, who died Thursday, June 5, in a controversial parachute jump, has always accused Israel of ââ¬Åstate terrorismââ¬Â and defended the Palestiniansââ¬â¢ legitimate rights.
It is not yet known whether Moellemann committed suicide or has been murdered.
Yeah, big mystery there!
2003-10-31 17:37 | User Profile
[url]www.expatica.com/germany.asp?pad=190,205,&item_id=35400[/url]
Outrage over anti-Semitic claims 31 October 2003
BERLIN - Allegations that a German member of parliament said Jews were to blame for killings during the Russian revolution drew outrage and resignation demands on Friday.
Martin Hohmann, a member of the opposition Christian Democrats (CDU), said in an October 3 German Unity Day speech that the large number of Jewish Bolsheviks meant Jews had special responsibility for events of the Russian revolution, according to a Hessischer Rundfunk radio report.
"We can, with certain justification, view the millions of dead in the revolution's first phase and ask about the guilt of the Jews," said Hohmann as quoted by the radio station in a speech made in his home town of Neuhof near Fulda.
Hohmann went on to say it was clear that a large number of Jews were active at the command level for the execution squads of the dreaded Soviet secret police, the Cheka, said the report.
"For this reason one can speak of the Jews with a certain justification as a perpetrator nation. This may sound horrible but it follows the same logic as those who describe the Germans as a perpetrator nation," said Hohmann according to Hessische Rundfunk.
Hohmann went on to note that Bolshevik Jews had cut their ties to their faith just as Nazis later severed links with Christianity.
He concluded his speech by arguing that in the final analysis it was not fair to describe either Jews or Germans as a perpetrator nation but rather those without religious beliefs.
"Those without God with their godless ideologies were the real perpetrators of the last, bloody century," concluded Hohmann.
Members of all German parties and the Jewish community attacked the comments.
Angela Merkel, the leader of Hohmann's CDU, said the remarks were "totally unacceptable and intolerable" and that the entire party distanced itself from such thinking.
The leader of Germany's Central Council of Jews, Paul Spiegel, described the remarks as stooping "to the lowest levels of ugly anti-Semitism."
A senior member of German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats (SPD), Dieter Wiefelspuetz, demanded Hohmann resign.
"There's no place in the German parliament for anti-Semites," said Wiefelsputz.
Merkel said she had telephoned Hohmann to express her displeasure. It was unclear if further CDU action would be taken or if Hohmann would be forced to resign.
2003-10-31 17:49 | User Profile
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3230223.stm[/url]
German MP defends Jewish remarks
A German parliamentarian has refused to apologise for remarks that appeared to compare Jews during the Bolshevik Revolution to Nazis in World War II.
Conservative Martin Hohmann had said many Jews were active in execution squads during the Russian Revolution.
Members of Mr Hohmann's CDU party responded angrily and Jewish leaders have threatened to take legal action.
The Christian Democrats have faced allegations in the past about members having links to the extreme right.
'Perpetrators'
Mr Hohmann's comments, made in a 3 October speech, have only surfaced now.
He compared the killings in Russia's violent 1917 revolution, which he said were orchestrated by Jews, with the murder of Europe's Jews during the Holocaust of World War II.
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[B][I]Conservative Martin Hohmann[/I][/B]
[B]Friday statement [/B]
Neither the Germans nor the Jews are a race of perpetrators
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According to a transcript of his speech on the website of his local CDU branch in Neuhof, Mr Hohmann said: "Jews were active in great numbers in the leadership as well as in the Cheka [Soviet secret police] firing squads.
"Thus one could describe Jews with some justification as a Taetervolk [a race of perpetrators].
"That may sound horrible. But it would follow the same logic with which one describes the Germans as a race of perpetrators."
However, he went on to say: "Neither the Germans nor the Jews are a race of perpetrators."
The speech has since been taken off the site.
The BBC's Ray Furlong in Berlin says Mr Hohmann went further in defending his remarks on national television.
He said the MP demanded "justice" for Germans and that they should not define themselves as the nation who caused Auschwitz.
In a brief statement on Friday, without apologising or directly retracting his comments, Mr Hohmann said: "I describe neither the Jews nor the Germans as a nation of perpetrators."
"It wasn't and isn't my intention to hurt anyone's feelings."
Taboo
The head of Germany's Jewish community, Paul Spiegel, called Mr Hohmann's speech "a reach into the lowest drawer of disgusting anti-Semitism".
He said he had spoken to CDU leader Angela Merkel and assured reporters "she shared my views".
Ms Merkel said Mr Hohmann's words were "completely unacceptable and intolerable, and we distance ourselves from them absolutely".
She has spoken to the lawmaker on the telephone, but has not said the party will expel him.
Our correspondent says any criticism of Jewish people is still a taboo in Germany, which makes this incident extremely embarrassing for Mr Hohmann's party.
Dieter Wiefelspuetz, a senior parliamentarian for Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats, took a harder line.
"There is no place for anti-Semites in the German parliament," he said.
2003-10-31 18:19 | User Profile
Good!!! Nothing we didn't know anyways but hopefully this will reach the masses. The jewish led Bolshevik atrocities were just as heinous, if not more than the Third Reich's. The most encouraging aspect is probably Mr. Hohmann's refusal to apologize.
2003-10-31 19:09 | User Profile
Who's next to name the zhid? A veritable pogrom, it's.
2003-10-31 19:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]Who's next to name the zhid? A veritable pogrom, it's.[/QUOTE]
One positive is that if it continues, our Congress won't be able to screw anything else up being so busy drafting statements of denunciation of anti-semitic world leaders.
2003-10-31 19:18 | User Profile
Hopefully more politicos "come out" on the jewish question. I'd love to see Vladimir Putin speak up. Never know, with what's happened in Russia lately, he might have to vaporize Israel . Of course, I'd hail him as my king if he does.:king:
2003-10-31 22:03 | User Profile
Well, I guess we know what Weiner-Savage's show will be about today....
It will be funny when this snowballs to the point that every show of his will devolve into denouncing "anti-Semites" :lol:
2003-10-31 23:09 | User Profile
**Dieter Graumann, a leading member of the Jewish community in Frankfurt, the largest city in Hohmann's home state, said he was appalled by the remarks.
"Anti-Semitism in Germany has gone beyond the pub tables and arrived at the German Bundestag," he told public radio Hessischer Rundfunk.**
So the lousy zhid admits Germans grumble against his fellow tapeworms when they get a few Lowenbraus under their belts, eh? Dangerous admission there, "Dieter". You're slipping...
The Hesse state chapter of the CDU was quick to distance itself from Hohmann's views. The chapter's general secretary, Michael Boddenberg, demanded that Hohmann "refrain from such unhistorical, false and unacceptable comments".
Point out the lies in his statement, douche bag. If you can.
Matahir-Hohmann in 2004: Now More Than Ever
2003-11-01 00:05 | User Profile
[I]"We can, with certain justification, view the millions of dead in the revolution's first phase and ask about the guilt of the Jews," said Hohmann [/I]
[I]Allegations that a German member of parliament said Jews were to blame for killings during the Russian revolution drew outrage and resignation demands on Friday.[/I]
In a time of universal deceit telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act, said Orwell.