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Thread ID: 10833 | Posts: 21 | Started: 2003-10-30
2003-10-30 06:16 | User Profile
[url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20031029/od_afp/lifestyle_us_television_031029172820[/url]
Fox nearly sued itself over 'Simpsons' parody: Matt Groening
NEW YORK (AFP) - Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel threatened to sue the makers of "The Simpsons" over a parody of the channel's right-wing political stance, the creator of the hit US television show has claimed.
In an interview this week with National Public Radio, Matt Groening recalled how the news channel had considered legal action, despite the fact that "The Simpsons" is broadcast on sister network, Fox Entertainment.
According to Groening, Fox took exception took a Simpsons' version of the Fox News rolling news ticker which parodied the channel's anti-Democrat stance, with headlines like "Do Democrats Cause Cancer?"
"Fox fought against it and said they would sue the show," Groening said.
"We called their bluff because we didn't think Rupert Murdoch would pay for Fox to sue itself. So, we got away with it."
Other satirical Fox news bulletins featured in the show included: "Study: 92 per cent of Democrats are gay... JFK posthumously joins Republican Party... Oil slicks found to keep seals young, supple..."
While the lawsuit never materialized, Groening said some action was taken.
"Now Fox has a new rule that we can't do those little fake news crawls on the bottom of the screen in a cartoon because it might confuse the viewers into thinking it's real news," he said.
"The Simpsons," featuring the dysfunctional family of patriarch Homer Simpson and his rowdy brood, is now in its 14th year and is expected to become the longest-running situation comedy in US history in 2005.
Perun1201: Might confuse the viewers into thinking it's real news? Oy vey! Televitzion has really made your average American joe into a complete moron!
2003-11-11 09:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Oy vey! Televitzion has really made your average American joe into a complete moron![/QUOTE]
Oh, I dunno. [I]You're [/I] American, and you managed to figure it out.
2003-11-11 13:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Oh, I dunno. [I]You're [/I] American, and you managed to figure it out.[/QUOTE]
il rango, are you capable of saying anything else than smart-ass one remarks? Even in the "Rock defeated Communism?????" thread you just had to bash those who believed that Rock had little if any role in Communism collasped!
If you're looking to start a flame war here, I'm not going to play your game. Sorry but you're not going to succeed in getting the last of "the Euro Cabal" banned from this forum! :blow:
2003-11-12 01:57 | User Profile
Disagreeing with a stated opinion is "smart-ass" now, huh? Are you familiar with Ambrose Bierce, Koba? He defined "blasphemy" as [I]your [/I] irreverence towards [I]my[/I] deity.
Okay then, I take it back and I wholeheartedly apologize: you're NOT sufficiently intelligent to tell reality from fantasy.
2003-11-12 02:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Sorry but you're not going to succeed in getting the last of "the Euro Cabal" banned from this forum! [/QUOTE]
I didn't even notice this little curare-tipped dart until just now.
I guess this encapsulates what's [I]wrong [/I] with White Nationalism - it's a big tent under which every paranoid whining girly-man like you can take shelter under, nursing every grudge - real & imaginary - you tote with you at all times.
I want to be free of Jews and their stranglehold on my country. [I]You [/I] want to dance on a rooftop as the World Trade Cnter comes plummeting to Earth. Are you [I]absolutely sure [/I] you're not an Israeli art student, Perun?
2003-11-12 03:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Disagreeing with a stated opinion is "smart-ass" now, huh? Are you familiar with Ambrose Bierce, Koba? He defined "blasphemy" as [I]your [/I] irreverence towards [I]my[/I] deity.
Yeah nice try with the Koba thing. I don't even know where the f*ck with this stuff about my irreverence towards "your" deity came from. What are you from the church of il Rango?
Okay then, I take it back and I wholeheartedly apologize: you're NOT sufficiently intelligent to tell reality from fantasy.[/QUOTE]
Again with the smart-ass remarks, you're really showing your maturity here mister!
I didn't even notice this little curare-tipped dart until just now.
I guess this encapsulates what's wrong with White Nationalism - it's a big tent under which every paranoid whining girly-man like you can take shelter under, nursing every grudge - real & imaginary - you tote with you at all times.
Ohhh we're getting back to this childish nonsense of you trying to insult my masculinity. Take your MTV bullsh*t elsewhere!
I want to be free of Jews and their stranglehold on my country. You want to dance on a rooftop as the World Trade Cnter comes plummeting to Earth.
And you can prove this how? Or are you just making more immature dumbass remarks in order to provoke a flame response?
Are you absolutely sure you're not an Israeli art student, Perun?
Yes I'm sure I'm not an Israeli art student. Are you sure you're not some immature MTV addict who has nothing to do but make fun of other peoples' penis size?
2003-11-12 05:42 | User Profile
[B]Are you sure you're not some immature MTV addict who has nothing to do but make fun of other peoples' penis size?[/B]
[QUOTE][I]....The only thing I ever watched on MTV was "Beavis and Butthead", but even then I never placed them on a god-like pedestal that so many other teens did! [/I]
[B]Where is the MTV studio anyhoo?[/B]
[I]I believe it's on Time Sqaure in New York. Don't ask me how I know this! [/I] [/QUOTE]
Now I myself have never made a post commenting first-hand on the actual programming on MTV. But YOU have.
And we've been through this "penis" thing before, too.
[QUOTE]You know, your incessant whining on this point led me to go back and slog through that damned waste-of-bandwidth thread to find the offending comments.
Interestingly, I cannot find [I]any [/I] mention in [I]any [/I] of my posts regarding your "penis size".
But hey - if the shoe fits...![/QUOTE]
Everything that comes out of your mouth is either a whine, a lie or a false accusation. I ask you again: [I]are you sure you're not Jewish?[/I]
2003-11-12 06:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno] Now I myself have never made a post commenting first-hand on the actual programming on MTV. But YOU have.
And your point is what exactly? You're expressing MTV like attitudes with your pathetic attempts to knock down my masculinity, often by mentioning something related to sex.
Everything that comes out of your mouth is either a whine, a lie or a false accusation.
Yeah and there are many people here who would seriously disagree with you on this one! All you've been posting here on this forum are stupid knee-jerk replies as a way to boost your own self-esteem because you know that compared to the more intelligent members of this board, you're pathetic!
I ask you again: [I]are you sure you're not Jewish?[/I][/QUOTE] Interestingly you accuse me of being Jewish when you're the one who comes on to different threads and hijacks them in order to start flame wars that have nothing to do with the topic at hand! And you've already done it here on this thread. So go ahead, call me a Jew all you want; it only proves you're an immature little weasel who has no place on a forum like this! In many ways, you're far worse than Rban!
2003-11-12 06:28 | User Profile
Bleah!!
Aww come on, he was just quoting Ambrose Bierce, a good White guy who was quite witty, it wasn't anything personal.
Matt Groening isn't jewish, so you can bet he's not liked in Televitz land! Anyone notice a message in Mr. Burns' nose and in conjunction his non-White looking lackey, or is it just me? :-)
2003-11-12 06:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Acorn]Bleah!!
Aww come on, he was just quoting Ambrose Bierce, a good White guy who was quite witty, it wasn't anything personal.
No it was personal! I don't know what his problem is, but this little Italian n*gger weasel has been on some agenda to start :dung: with me ever since the "Remembering American Wars" thread, where he pratically hijacked the thread and turned it into a pathetic slug match where he tried to knee-jerk me by making stupid claims about how I need to get laid and all sorts of worthless bull like that! I'm sure trying to trap me into continuous flame wars so as to have Tex ban me is part of his plan, after all get rid of the last of the "Euro cabal". Now he's doing the same with his pathetic replies about me being a Jew and other immature nonsense like that!
But apparently it isn't just to me, but I've seen him do this is crap with others on this forum, basically distracting people from the topic at hand in order to engage in flame wars! So il Rango is nothing more than a little troll who deserves to have his worthless n*gger ass banned!
Matt Groening isn't jewish, so you can bet he's not liked in Televitz land! Anyone notice a message in Mr. Burns' nose and in conjunction his non-White looking lackey, or is it just me? :-)[/QUOTE] Well now, unlike il Rango this person can actually stay on topic! But obviously it's beyond il Rango's pathetic feeble mind to stay on any topic but instead think of someway of turning any decent discussion into a pointless flame war! --- ### Acorn *2003-11-12 07:18* | [User Profile](/od/user/746) Damn, Range-O, Prune, settle down! All Range-O said was some flip but really harmless remark. Americans are *not* stupid, that's what scares Der Juden the most, and all Rangey did was point that out. In a humorous way - this board gets any more touchy and I'm going to accuse y'all of being Liberals, that's the one utterly humorless group I know of.
The Simpsons is a hilarious show, and I state Groening isn't Jewish cos I found that on a page by one of the Tribe dedicated to keeping track of who's Chosen and who's not. It's not a hard page to find, and interesting to say the least.
Comments about "Americans" offend me less and less, each shocking time I learn on IRC etc that most Euros think Americans are likely non-Whites or Jews. They really think the USA is only a small minority Gentile Whites. Now THAT, is scary! More of us need to talk to people where we can, insert even little comments where we can, showing that the US has a TONS of Whites, in fact the majority, and they're pissed off as hell and ready to throw off the Jew yoke. Now *that's* worth getting wound up about :-P --- ### Hilaire Belloc *2003-11-12 07:39* | [User Profile](/od/user/438) [QUOTE=Acorn]Damn, Range-O, Prune, settle down! Prune? It's Perun! I hope you know that's an actual name of a Slavic deity! > All Range-O said was some flip but really harmless remark. If this was one of the few remarks he makes, then yes I'd agree with you. But almost everytime I post something, Rango is already there making smart-ass remarks as if to provoke a flame war! As I said before, he's doing this on other threads and to other members of this forum! > Americans are *not* stupid, that's what scares Der Juden the most, and all Rangey did was point that out. Yes in his typical smart-ass remark way! He's incapable of making any articulate arguments whatsoever, its just knee-jerk one liners! He even jumped on me because I started a thread titled "What's your avatar", because he's the *sole Italian* on this forum therefore he had exclusive rights to typing "what's your avatar"! > In a humorous way - this board gets any more touchy and I'm going to accuse y'all of being Liberals, that's the one utterly humorless group I know of. I'm getting real sick of this accusation being laid against me all the time. I've tolerated much *humor* on this forum and have even engaged in it as well. Yet once I get angry over something I'm always being told to "have a sense of humor", as if to blow off responsibility for their own remarks! --- ### Acorn *2003-11-12 08:21* | [User Profile](/od/user/746) Aww come on, you're just seeming like the Slavic god of short-temperedness. Some people aren't smart enough to do more than little remarks, maybe Rango is a 'special person' and we should not pick on him. The little remarks may be annoying, but the blow-up over them, to a newcomer like me and who knows how many readers, look like 10X worse. Just don't rise to his bait, if bait it is, I have a feeling it's more like just noise and just ignore it and stay on-subject. We have a lot of work ahead, educating each other and lurkers/readers, and when the Revolution comes, it's types like us who may end up helping out educating our angry but confused and deracinated White comfades. If a little remark or two here get you going, I hate to think what might happen in a real classroom if someone throws a paper airplane! --- ### Texas Dissident *2003-11-12 17:25* | [User Profile](/od/user/1) ***Keep smiling, keep shining Knowing you can always count on me, for sure That's what friends are for For good times and bad times I'll be on your side forever more That's what friends are for...*** - Dionne Warwick, Elton John, Stevie Wonder and Gladys Knight :heart: --- ### weisbrot *2003-11-12 17:45* | [User Profile](/od/user/151) [QUOTE=perun1201]I'm getting real sick of this accusation being laid against me all the time. I've tolerated much *humor* on this forum and have even engaged in it as well. Yet once I get angry over something I'm always being told to "have a sense of humor", as if to blow off responsibility for their own remarks![/QUOTE] I've recently rediscovered this disc! I've always really liked it! The conversation such as it is here reminds me of a song on the album! I'm going to post the lyrics here because: 1. They're good! 2. I like 'em! 3. It's off topic and might facilitate some gasket-spewing! ***Terry** James McMurtry (Too Long in the Wasteland) Terry's off the track Sent him away and he won't be back For a while Fifteen years old One night he lost control Straight shots Staggered out to the parking lot Someone called him names He was in no mood for games He was irate And courting fate And it all went off in the blink of an eye There's no turning back or questioning why It was the heat of the moment, a flash in the pan Blood on the gravel and a long neck in his hand Terry's off the track Been gone two years And he ain't been back a time Sent him to a school He pays attention and he minds the rules And he makes no fuss Says he misses us He plays his guitar low In his room 'neath the sixty-watt glow Till the counselor shouts Lights out Then it all comes back, ringing in his ear My god boy what you doin' in here It was the heat of the moment, a flash in the pan Never should have happened and you know it never will again Terry's off the track Someday he'll be coming back they say His home town looks the same Same old streets and the same old games to play Must be a dream Eleven months he turns eighteen And he's out of there But he won't leave the walls behind They're gonna stay with him a good long time And in the heat of the moment, any old day It don't take a second to throw it all away* --- ### Texas Dissident *2003-11-12 17:56* | [User Profile](/od/user/1) [I]The first time I saw Carrie Brown She was so young and fair A voice like spring rain fallin' down and sunlight in her hair I'd never seen her face before so I asked all around Her daddy owns a grocery store and she lives in Bristol town Carrie darlin' Carrie, Carrie Brown I cried If I can't marry Carrie Brown believe I'd rather die I laid my last ten dollars down Though I didn't need a thing Just to touch sweet Carrie Brown When she handed me my change I hung around 'til closin' time I scarce believed my eyes My darlin' walkin' arm in arm With a boy named Billy Wise I walked around in Bristol town a bitter broken man A heart that pined for Carrie Brown and a pistol in my hand We met again on State Street poor Billy Wise and me I shot him in Virginia and he died in Tennessee Now I'm down in the Bristol jail and all I do is cry 'Cause the jury found me guilty and the judge says I must die I'm just a poor young mountain boy Ain't never been to town And I've come to ruination for the love of Carrie Brown* "Carrie Brown" by Steve Earle --- ### il ragno *2003-11-12 20:19* | [User Profile](/od/user/85) [QUOTE]Even in the "Rock defeated Communism?????" thread you just had to bash those who believed that Rock had little if any role in Communism collasped! [/QUOTE] My "bash": [QUOTE]Guess it's up to me to take this writer's side. But yes, I can believe that rock & roll played a part in the downfall of Communism; or more properly, offered a kind of conduit for disaffected youth in Soviet-bloc nations to turn their attention to. [/QUOTE] Whoo-ee! Suh, you have insulted me! [U]Pistols at dawn!![/U] Perun, it's documented fact that the first Russian concerts by Western rock bands (and by Western I mean Germany's Scorpions, Australia's AC-DC and Sweden's Yngwie Malmsteen - not American bands) drew on average A MILLION PEOPLE! Not 10,000; not 100, 000; A MILLION!! More than once! Do you [I]still [/I] want to snicker that rock music played no cultural role in the collapse of Soviet Communism? And where is the 'bash'? Help me out here....cuz I don't see one. Second "bash". You: Oy vey! Televitzion has really made your average American joe into a complete moron! Me: Oh, I dunno. [I]You're [/I] American, and you managed to figure it out. Again: why in the world would THE SIMPSONS be Fox's most successful show (for a decade now!) if people didn't understand the jokes?!? But here at least I see your point. The 'bash' was when I reminded you that [I]you too are an American.[/I] This is the deadliest possible insult one can levy at you. --- ### Hilaire Belloc *2003-11-12 21:14* | [User Profile](/od/user/438) [QUOTE=il ragno] Perun, it's documented fact that the first Russian concerts by Western rock bands (and by Western I mean Germany's Scorpions, Australia's AC-DC and Sweden's Yngwie Malmsteen - not American bands) drew on average A MILLION PEOPLE! Not 10,000; not 100, 000; A MILLION!! More than once! Do you [I]still [/I] want to snicker that rock music played no cultural role in the collapse of Soviet Communism? If rock did play a role in communism's collapse, it was minor compared to the ineffiency of the Soviet system. The argument that rock music was what brought down the Soviet system is completly ridiculas. > Second "bash". You: Oy vey! Televitzion has really made your average American joe into a complete moron! Me: Oh, I dunno. [I]You're [/I] American, and you managed to figure it out. Again: why in the world would THE SIMPSONS be Fox's most successful show (for a decade now!) if people didn't understand the jokes?!? Thats exactly what I was arguing, or rather was joking about! I was clearly ridiculing the reason why the Fox executives did not want the news tickers in the future, claiming that people would mistake that for "real news". Whats interesting here people I was actually defending Americans, since these executives think that the average American can't tell the difference between real and fake news; between "new study shows 90% of democrats are gay" and "16 American soldiers were killed in Iraq today when their helicopter was shot down by Iraqi insurgents". So Sert in his PM to me claimed that I insulted Americans and thus started this whole thing here! I did not insult Americans, I was ridiculing the Fox executives' real insult against Americans. So you people are claiming I have no sense of humor, when in fact I was displaying humor here and you people totally missed the joke! --- ### Hilaire Belloc *2003-11-12 21:27* | [User Profile](/od/user/438) [QUOTE=AntiYuppie]il ragno, like myself and everybody else here, can be a real pain sometimes. But I've never seen him post anything which "deserves to be banned" or that would lead me to characterize him as a "troll." AntiYuppie, I have much respect for you on this forum; but I respectfully ask you to look at the "Remembering American Wars" thread. Il Rango had a big role in taking that thread totally off topic and turned it into a personal slug match. Even when I still tried to provide some info to counter il Rango, he totally ignored it and continued on with his knee-jerk remarks. And here he's trying to claim that I was insulting Americans in general, when in fact I was defending them against a ridiculas argument made by FOX executives. I know full well that most Americans can tell the difference between those "news" stories on the Simpsons and real life; that was the whole point of my joke. Apparently neither il Rango or even Sert understood it and instead accuse me of doing something I never did! > On the other hand, your little rant (emphasis mine) does sound like something rban might write. I admit that when I become enraged I can really lose it, and I clearly lost it here. But il Rango it seems is always on some agenda to provoke me into some flame war! > As far as I've seen, on both the Rock/Communism thread and elsewhere, he simply expressed his disagreement with the other posters. He does it in a characteristic style that most find amusing but some might not, but that's his prerogative. I've never heard him "demand" that Tex ban you or anybody else, and if posts like the above get you into trouble, you have only yourself to blame.[/QUOTE] Well I don't know why il Rango is constantly making these one-liners against me everytime I post something. Even when I started the "What's your avatar" thread, he made comments about how I shouldn't have done that and that he's the only one who post such a thing. Even some of the others on that thread didn't understand what Rango was getting at there. --- ### il ragno *2003-11-12 22:01* | [User Profile](/od/user/85) 'Cultural role', Perun. Not an overt economic/geopolitical role whichof course is going to play a much larger part. But I maintain that [I]culture [/I] has a valid role in the overall decline of a political system; it certainly has played one [I]here[/I], wouldn't you agree? Furthermore the avatar thread is titled "What's YOU Avatar?"....which sounds like something Chico Marx would ask - thus my remark! Jesus H Christ....does Tex need to actually launch an "Etymology Of Puns and Jokes" folder here?!? I realize most people pay to see the stripper and not the comic....but you obviously show up to boo em [I]both[/I]! --- ### Hilaire Belloc *2003-11-13 00:33* | [User Profile](/od/user/438) [QUOTE=il ragno]'Cultural role', Perun. Not an overt economic/geopolitical role whichof course is going to play a much larger part. But I maintain that [I]culture [/I] has a valid role in the overall decline of a political system; it certainly has played one [I]here[/I], wouldn't you agree? Yes I do agree, but the way that article explained it was completely ridiculas! > Furthermore the avatar thread is titled "What's YOU Avatar?"....which sounds like something Chico Marx would ask - thus my remark! Oh I'm sorry that when I type I often make mistakes. I'm *sorry* thats not to your tastes! > Jesus H Christ....does Tex need to actually launch an "Etymology Of Puns and Jokes" folder here?!? I realize most people pay to see the stripper and not the comic....but you obviously show up to boo em [I]both[/I]![/QUOTE] Speak for yourself, you failed to address the fact that I actually was ridiculing the FOX executives and how you turned in around claiming I was insulting all Americans, which I certainly did not do! ---