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Valley Forge [OP]

2003-10-25 19:49 | User Profile

I've noticed that at least three people have been banned since I was last here.

Can I ask what did these posters do to get banned?

Not disputing that it was the right thing to do, just curious, because I don't recall anyone being banned here up till now.


Texas Dissident

2003-10-25 19:59 | User Profile

When certain members' liabilities far outweigh their asset to the overall board community, then I think it is time for them to go.

I'm sorry if this ruffles anyone's feathers, but it is a decision I did not take lightly and one that I will stand by.


Valley Forge

2003-10-25 20:13 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]When certain members' liabilities far outweigh their asset to the overall board community, then I think it is time for them to go.

I'm sorry if this ruffles anyone's feathers, but it is a decision I did not take lightly and one that I will stand by.[/QUOTE]

Just to be a little clearer, it doesn't ruffle my feathers at all. I was just curious about what they did.


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-10-25 20:25 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]When certain members' liabilities far outweigh their asset to the overall board community, then I think it is time for them to go.

I'm sorry if this ruffles anyone's feathers, but it is a decision I did not take lightly and one that I will stand by.[/QUOTE]

Are these individuals banned permanently?


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-25 20:45 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Valley Forge]I've noticed that at least three people have been banned since I was last here.

Can I ask what did these posters do to get banned? [/QUOTE]

Oh I can think of some reasons why they were banned. Personally I don't see why they should've been.


Okiereddust

2003-10-25 21:05 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Valley Forge]I've noticed that at least three people have been banned since I was last here.

Can I ask what did these posters do to get banned as someone previously banned. I don't get the sense of too many tears beng shed over his absense.

Not disputing that it was the right thing to do, just curious, because I don't recall anyone being banned here up till now.[/QUOTE]

Rban to some extent comes to mind.

I feel bad becase I'd looked at a Friedrich Braun post and reposted it as a seperate thread. I'd even had to defend it against people who were mad at me for doing so.

I guess though that's the bottom line. These threads seemed to be taking up everybody's time and making everyone mad, without little really to show for it. There are other forums, I'm sure many forums, where one can discuss religion and religious differences to one's hearts content. Discussing these things on this forum, in this context, generally means that one has not just a criticism of ones religious beliefs from a religious, but a national, standpoint.

There's an argument to be made both ways, I'm sure. But to some extent endless discussions on certain religious questions can just be vexing, and lead to nowhere.

From a fundamentalist Christian standpoint, I might make the anology of some of these questions to the "Who was Cain's Wife" questions, (See Genesis 4:17) bible class teachers always complain about. It to some extent is a valid question. But if you have people who don't want to do anything but discuss these kinds of questions, it becomes obvious they are becoming a hindrance to the class. One must find a way to move on, or the whole class will be stymied.

I know these changes will be mentioned by those who have criticized censorship at OD. But maybe those who have favored these type of discussions could tell me or others how what seemed to be the endless haggling was furthering the cause of conservatism and nationalism, and helping us achieve practical gains in achieving mutual goodwill and in organization, strategy, and unity.

That this is was not the case seemed to be a widespread sentiment on both sides of the issue


il ragno

2003-10-25 21:35 | User Profile

I'm actually a little sad to hear about rban; I'd like to see the lovable nut reinstated.

As for the other three, they're in their [I]glory [/I] right now. Tex "proved" he "couldn't take" the overpowering "rightness" of their arguments, etc, etc, etc. Doubtless they're convened over on Fade's board right now, wallowing in self-congratulation.

Censorship is hardly an issue on a venue where someone [I]else[/I] is paying all the bills. I know for a fact that Tex already allows commentary with which he strenuously disagrees to appear here, unfettered and unrestrained; I think he's grown calloused enough to allow rude & slovenly guests into his 'home' and take it in stride. However, those three took a certain malevolent glee in climbing on the table, squatting over the fine china & relieving themselves, and I don't think TD was willing to see them anchor the site's Alexas any further down with such shenanigans.

I have no doubt we'll see them here again at some point down the road. Gaunt & Braun need outlets like this to validate themselves; and if Fade had anyplace better to be, he'd have never shown up here in the [I]first[/I] place.


madrussian

2003-10-25 21:40 | User Profile

I tried to ignore the latest squabbles. It got too personal, and no one wanted to relent. I hope the banned can return sometime in the future and all will learn a lesson here.

No, I don't care for rbanned. That was a pure liability.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-25 21:52 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno]I'm actually a little sad to hear about rban; I'd like to see the lovable nut reinstated.

I believe Tex nuked Rban.

As for the other three, they're in their [I]glory [/I] right now. Tex "proved" he "couldn't take" the overpowering "rightness" of their arguments, etc, etc, etc. Doubtless they're convened over on Fade's board right now, wallowing in self-congratulation.

I bet you've been there lately to find out?

Censorship is hardly an issue on a venue where someone [I]else[/I] is paying all the bills. I know for a fact that Tex already allows commentary with which he strenuously disagrees to appear here, unfettered and unrestrained; I think he's grown calloused enough to allow rude & slovenly guests into his 'home' and take it in stride. However, those three took a certain malevolent glee in climbing on the table, squatting over the fine china & relieving themselves, and I don't think TD was willing to see them anchor the site's Alexas any further down with such shenanigans.

Did you really have to explain it like that, with taking the :dung: and all that?

You and Gibbon weren't exactly the most polite people on that thread either. Gibbon was so stuck up, arrogant, and rude when I asked him a very simple question, telling me that I'm stupid and I should take a finger and stick it you know where. I'm suprised hardly any of those messages were ever deleted. And you il rango yourself weren't a saint either. Especially with your remarks about me needing to get laid and trying to make fun of my private parts.

You told me to learn to be a little more humble, I suggest you follow your own advice! Thats all I have to say here. I'm not going to engage in another flame war with you.

How about that, I'm the only member of the "Euro cabal" that wasn't banned.


Ruffin

2003-10-25 23:34 | User Profile

Doubtless they're convened over on Fade's board right now,..

Can anyone give me directions to "Fade's board"?


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-25 23:39 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ruffin]Can anyone give me directions to "Fade's board"?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.thephora.org/[/url] Theres not much there now. They had some technical troubles and most of the posts have been deleted.


Ruffin

2003-10-25 23:47 | User Profile

Thank you, sir.


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-10-26 03:45 | User Profile

[QUOTE=perun1201][url]http://www.thephora.org/[/url] Theres not much there now. They had some technical troubles and most of the posts have been deleted.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, some ADL or JDL hackers completely wiped all the board's posts out :(


Texas Dissident

2003-10-27 16:56 | User Profile

I've gone back and forth in my mind over whether or not I should post any more on this subject. I decided that the Senior Members here deserved to know more.

The main thing I want you to know is that the bannings did not merely stem from the American Wars thread, especially in the cases of Gaunt and braun. Both of them have a history with me and have had their posting privileges suspended on several occasions already for flagrant violations of the board guidelines I've set up.

Another thing some may not know, but a week or so ago there was a thread on some subject I can't recall, but it devolved into a back-slapping, who-can-kill-all-the-jews-faster-and-with-more-glee posting exercise between the parties that were ultimately banned. Some of you may recall braun complaining about it in another thread in Current Events, I believe. Even then I didn't suspend these guys but issued some public warnings that even the most obtuse poster would understand.

However, it became quite clear to me over the next few days that these guys meant nothing but ill will towards myself, OD and indeed, any Americans in general and were not about to heed any warnings or previous suspensions and reign-in their rhetoric. The hemorrhaging had to stop, so I made the decision I did.

I hope my track record here evidences the fact that I am pretty tolerant of all kinds of views/posters, etc., and not quick on the ban button. These members had violated the board's guidelines consistently and flagrantly and because of that, were really becoming a severe liability for productive discussion.

Hope y'all understand and will continue to participate. If not, I understand that too, but I believe my decision was the right one and as I stated previously, I stand behind it.

Best regards, Jason


golfball

2003-10-27 17:24 | User Profile

Anyone, including myself must observe your guidelines. You have a responsibility to practice and your judgment calls must be noted as proper for what you want and/or need.

This forum does well with facts. It is a good place to share points of view while realizing that sometimes, it is best to agree to disagree.

I know that if I were coming here to just cause trouble, I would be quickly banned. Since the site administrator is Christian by virtue, I can discuss Christian as well as political issues on this board also. I appreciate the ability to share and or discuss political and religious familiaralities (similarities)/differences here at O.D.

This forum has proven beneficial to many here due to the nature of the majority of discussions present.

I like O.D., BUT still understand that responsibilty must be practiced while posting here.

( Thats probably why I have not been kicked out yet )


Walter Yannis

2003-10-27 18:50 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I've gone back and forth in my mind over whether or not I should post any more on this subject. I decided that the Senior Members here deserved to know more.

The main thing I want you to know is that the bannings did not merely stem from the American Wars thread, especially in the cases of Gaunt and braun. Both of them have a history with me and have had their posting privileges suspended on several occasions already for flagrant violations of the board guidelines I've set up.

Another thing some may not know, but a week or so ago there was a thread on some subject I can't recall, but it devolved into a back-slapping, who-can-kill-all-the-jews-faster-and-with-more-glee posting exercise between the parties that were ultimately banned. Some of you may recall braun complaining about it in another thread in Current Events, I believe. Even then I didn't suspend these guys but issued some public warnings that even the most obtuse poster would understand.

However, it became quite clear to me over the next few days that these guys meant nothing but ill will towards myself, OD and indeed, any Americans in general and were not about to heed any warnings or previous suspensions and reign-in their rhetoric. The hemorrhaging had to stop, so I made the decision I did.

I hope my track record here evidences the fact that I am pretty tolerant of all kinds of views/posters, etc., and not quick on the ban button. These members had violated the board's guidelines consistently and flagrantly and because of that, were really becoming a severe liability for productive discussion.

Hope y'all understand and will continue to participate. If not, I understand that too, but I believe my decision was the right one and as I stated previously, I stand behind it.

Best regards, Jason[/QUOTE]

You're the man, Tex.

As I said on another thread, I think that Fade and Braun had some redeeming value, but really one can only take so much. Gaunt was really hopeless - I'm impressed that you didn't can him ages ago.

I second Il Ragno's motion to reinstate Rban. He was good for some comic relief.

Now if we could only find Leo . . . .

I for one appreciate your very kind hospitality. There's really no place else for us Paleos to go on the entire web, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for providing me a virtual home.

Warmest regards to all my friends here on OD,

Walter


Okiereddust

2003-10-27 23:31 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]You're the man, Tex.

As I said on another thread, I think that Fade and Braun had some redeeming value, but really one can only take so much. Gaunt was really hopeless - I'm impressed that you didn't can him ages ago.

Yes, I think they had some value. However the demerits I suspect far outweighed the pluses.

I don't have time to constantly monitor the board and see what they're saying, and I'm sure Tex really doesn't either. Reading that "American Wars" thread sounds like one of those necessary tasks to continuing to put up with them.

I don't like to see any opinions, especially ones representative of a lot of Nationalists, banned from this forum. However FB's and LG's opinions aren't banned, their posts are still here. And you know these old codgers are never going to change. I've heard their piece, I'm not brokenhearted I won't hear it 1000 times again.

I second Il Ragno's motion to reinstate Rban. He was good for some comic relief.

Now if we could only find Leo . . . .

Go **** yourself. ;)

Pretty good eh? Does that satisfy your residual Leo craving? ;)

I for one appreciate your very kind hospitality. There's really no place else for us Paleos to go on the entire web, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for providing me a virtual home.

Warmest regards to all my friends here on OD,

Walter[/QUOTE]

Seconds to that. After being at this forum, I realize why there aren't too many other places that handle us. Paleo's and nationalists of all sorts aren't the easiest people to put up with.

Sometimes I think is a lot like running a Nazi forum as far as the approbium incurred, without the good old Nazi relief at getting to use all those 4 letter words or racial epitaphs our mothers would never let us say. It takes a special person to put up with all that, as I've learned bouncing across the internet. Thanks Tex.


Otho_Isch

2003-10-28 00:45 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I'm sorry if this ruffles anyone's feathers, but it is a decision I did not take lightly and one that I will stand by.[/QUOTE]

It's your board, and many of us here trust your judgement. Most of us (you included) have probably been banned from at least 100 sites, so we know that if you're booting someone, it's for a damned good reason.

Great VNN quote, Tex. Congrats. : )


Ragnar

2003-10-28 01:04 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Okiereddust]...Sometimes I think is a lot like running a Nazi forum as far as the approbium incurred... Thanks Tex.[/QUOTE]

I second the thanks, and you are most correct. As far as the non-ideological American majority is concerned, everything here is Nazi; people literally can not draw distinctions very well. Or they've been dumbed down beyond belief.

Many of us have never gotten over the fact that the average sports fan thinks VDARE is racist. If a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step, most whites will never take it. Ever.


Okiereddust

2003-10-28 02:09 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ragnar]I second the thanks, and you are most correct. As far as the non-ideological American majority is concerned, everything here is Nazi; people literally can not draw distinctions very well. Or they've been dumbed down beyond belief.

Many of us have never gotten over the fact that the average sports fan thinks VDARE is racist. If a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step, most whites will never take it. Ever.[/QUOTE] Well the average person thinks Pat Buchanan is racist. Of course privately the average American also thinks the racists are right. It's just one of those things that polite people don't talk about.

Hopefully we're making some progress in showing how these things can be talked about, in thesort of way that would make the average Joe who thinks people who talk about this stuff are stupid rednecks to take a second look.


Bardamu

2003-10-28 02:47 | User Profile

Nix on rban. The guy truly hates White people. Rban also enjoyed insulting White women in the most vile ways imaginable. I'm never in the mood to read that sort of bilge. But I understand how some of you like to street brawl and knife fight with these characters so an [I]anti [/I] forum, down in the basement as it were, roped off from the rest of the forum, is a good idea.

Concerning the fellows banned. I liked ol' Gaunt, and the others were okay too. But I was a German soldier in another lifetime so what can you expect? I do think there was bad blood there between them and the management, and when that happens seperation is best for everyone.


Smedley Butler

2003-10-28 04:34 | User Profile

RBAN, please never again....


Smedley Butler

2003-10-28 04:44 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]You're the man, Tex.

As I said on another thread, I think that Fade and Braun had some redeeming value, but really one can only take so much. Gaunt was really hopeless - I'm impressed that you didn't can him ages ago.

I second Il Ragno's motion to reinstate Rban. He was good for some comic relief.

Now if we could only find Leo . . . .

I for one appreciate your very kind hospitality. There's really no place else for us Paleos to go on the entire web, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for providing me a virtual home.

Warmest regards to all my friends here on OD,

Walter[/QUOTE] Gentleman, I think that the flagarant post's that are about doing in folks on a public forum is absoultely an attempt to wipe O.D. or another conservative forum site off the internet.. Even if some hate alien group deserve's such and such, their no Point to Sophmoric violent post's other than to cause trouble..They may be slick troll's pretending to be Western Men, but are not at all, or maybe the are stupid drunks?.. So now, I understand the banning...


Smedley Butler

2003-10-28 09:18 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Well the average person thinks Pat Buchanan is racist. Of course privately the average American also thinks the racists are right. It's just one of those things that polite people don't talk about.

Hopefully we're making some progress in showing how these things can be talked about, in thesort of way that would make the average Joe who thinks people who talk about this stuff are stupid rednecks to take a second look.[/QUOTE] As for VDARE.COM, I have given the link to Collie-ge graduate's in their late thirtie's who ask me week's later when seeing me; asking are you a racist? I looked them straight in the face, saying read it a little more and if you don't realize who you are, or where we as a people are then, I have noting to say about the subject to you again, thanks for looking though. Then I move on... The 7 Liar's/Lawyer's in my little town are all pro Diveristly and one that I gave VDARE to ask me if I was a NAZI. He is about 42...Interesting... We have too many of these vicious ruthless money grubbing ######. Fighting for justice by joining this filthy putridfession crew of thug's called lawyer's who are on emoral sea, with out a compass is akin to having sex for virginity, it Can't be done.. On the bright side most of who I have given Vdare too take to it, and are in shock after years of that Telivetz..


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-28 13:11 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Bardamu] Concerning the fellows banned. I liked ol' Gaunt, and the others were okay too. But I was a German soldier in another lifetime so what can you expect? I do think there was bad blood there between them and the management, and when that happens seperation is best for everyone.[/QUOTE]

You're not alone. I liked Gaunt too. Me and him always got along. I'm upset thats he's been banned. Fade, nothing against him either, but then again me and him didn't debate much. Friederich, well.....I had a love-hate relationship with him. On one hand we were at each others throughts in our theology debates. Also I found him annoying with his over-glorification of blond haired blue eyed Nordics. But I don't think he deserved to be banned either.


Robbie

2003-10-29 03:40 | User Profile

Friederich, Fade and Leland are the [B]political prisoners[/B] in this forum.

Free The Big Three!!


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-29 03:46 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Robbie]Friederich, Fade and Leland are the [B]political prisoners[/B] in this forum.

Free The Big Three!![/QUOTE]

Yes Free them NOW!

** Keep your patience proud; The bitter toil shall not be lost, The rebel thought unbowed.

The sister of misfortune,Hope, In the under-darkness dumb Speaks joyful courage to your heart: The day desired will come.

And love and friendship pour to you Across the darkened doors, Even as round your galley-beds My free musik pours.

The heavy-hanging chains will fall, The walls will crumble at a word; And Freedom greet you in the light, And brothers give you back the sword

--"Message to Siberia" by Alexander Pushkin 1827 **


Franco

2003-10-29 04:06 | User Profile

There is a deep divide on OD between the paleos and WNs. All the people who were banned recently [as far as I know, at least] were WNs.

Hope this is not a trend... :shocking:


Ragnar

2003-10-29 04:24 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Franco]There is a deep divide on OD between the paleos and WNs. All the people who were banned recently [as far as I know, at least] were WNs. [/QUOTE]

This seems true. Also the divide exists outside this forum, which was why it was good to thrash things out at least for awhile.

Paleos are conservatives. Conservatives, generally, are hyper-terrified of being called racist. That's because till maybe the 70s conservatives were WN. You can look this up: In the 1950s, Ohio senator Bob Taft (senior!) was adamant that the Federal Government had no business whatever messing with Jim Crow laws or any other state-level segregation codes. And he was a presidential contender. Taft was touted by the young Bill Buckley. You know the rest of the story.

WNs are too much for conservatives because, as a movement, conservatism betrayed America's founding race. It's only natural they fight a bit.


Franco

2003-10-29 05:02 | User Profile

Well said, Ragnar. Let us all talk about those differences.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-29 05:19 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Franco]Well said, Ragnar. Let us all talk about those differences.[/QUOTE]

All I can say is that I'm not a conservative but a neo-traditionalist. I agree with Julius Evola that conservativism only makes sense when traditionalists are in power, otherwise its worthless to our cause.

Now what is a neo-traditionalist? Neo-traditionalists believe in utilising modern methods of mobolizing people, but for traditionalist ends. Unlike Evola and other traditionalists, many neo-traditionalists do not reject populism. So in a way we are Traiditionalist populists!


Avalanche

2003-10-29 15:33 | User Profile

I liked rban, and I don't think he hated whites - I think he was SO committed to his Hindu brethren that he just could NOT see any other race as important or worth his committment (and why would we expect it of him? WE prefer our white race; he preferred his own!).

I'm sorry he was banned because I liked him as a person, but I don't too much miss his "bring all the Hindus here" messages. I had counseled hgim (long long ago) that he'd be better served finding some HINDU forum and trying to convert his OWN people, rather than trying to convince us against our own race. (Apparently he'd already been thrown off several Hindu lists for being a 'hater' -- see, even THEY are tainted!)

But I think Tex is just a marvel of restraint, and if he was finally moved to banning anyone, I support him -- I don't track, or even read, some threads, and so I missed some of the vitriol; (those silly posts about Germans and Poles hating each other and being better or worse that each other... sheesh! WASTE of time! Skipped 'em, stopped reading those threads-- nothing worth my time!)

Anyway -- good on yer Tex, keep on the so necessary good work!


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-29 15:38 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Avalanche]I liked rban, and I don't think he hated whites - I think he was SO committed to his Hindu brethren that he just could NOT see any other race as important or worth his committment (and why would we expect it of him? WE prefer our white race; he preferred his own!). [/QUOTE]

He may not have had a hatred for whites in general, but he certainly had a deep hatred for us Slavs! I'm still pissed at his remark about the death of one of my relatives at the hands of a Hindu doctor was a good thing and in accordance with Hitler's racial plans. :angry:


golfball

2003-10-29 16:03 | User Profile

Conservatives and White Nationalists share many attributes. Both see America as becoming an unacceptable third world nation. "Why thats racist!", yells the jew, communist, liberal, punk, queer, pedophile,.... and sometimes, even the so called "conservative".

White nationalists freely admit their efforts to re-route America toward traditional White and sometimes noted as Christian values. May as well be called a name by the filthy and corrupt, like we are concerned by their moral standing in society.

The Conservative on the other hand is more apt to be "Politically Correct" and this leads to their distruction. Does that Mississippi politician ring a bell???? ( Hint - Trent Lott )

Anyway, all he had to do was look into the camera and say to the allegations leveled at him, "so", but he did not do it. Now because of his cowardice to stand up at that critical time, conservatives have lost another voice in the area of National representation.

Yep, Ol' Trent Lott is a traitor.

However, Conservatives better find their "balls" shortly, before they wind up in the wrong hands.....

White Nationalists have their "balls" in the proper place.

Albeit sometimes their brain suffers from the overt levels of testostrone.


All Old Right

2003-10-29 18:01 | User Profile

[QUOTE=perun1201]All I can say is that I'm not a conservative but a neo-traditionalist. I agree with Julius Evola that conservativism only makes sense when traditionalists are in power, otherwise its worthless to our cause.

Now what is a neo-traditionalist? Neo-traditionalists believe in utilising modern methods of mobolizing people, but for traditionalist ends. Unlike Evola and other traditionalists, many neo-traditionalists do not reject populism. So in a way we are Traiditionalist populists![/QUOTE] Good grief! So many people want some cute name to associate with. You're either for people serving a huge government...or minimal government serving the people. It's not rocket science. If you are for traditonal ends, that's what neocons are for. Why do we keep dividing ourselves, the jews don't do enough of it on their own?

The only reason I use paleocon is because Bush and the GOP have destroyed the meaning of "conservative", as golfball displays in he mischaracteriztion of the definition of conservatism. golfball knows full well his examples are not a true conservatives. We even have a special section here that makes that dsitinction for golfball. "neocons"!!! :wallbash: Again. Why do we insist on weakening our efforts by division? Any of us would be a damn sight happier the way America was in 1800-1900 than we are now. Of course, that doesn't mean we'd still be in horse and buggy. For that matter, we'd be better off in horse and buggy, than this garbage the jews have us tied up in. Let's get a freaking plan together and move forward. And stop the :argue:

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Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-29 18:25 | User Profile

[QUOTE=All Old Right]Good grief! So many people want some cute name to associate with. You're either for people serving a huge government...or minimal government serving the people. It's not rocket science. If you are for traditonal ends, that's what neocons are for. Why do we keep dividing ourselves, the jews don't do enough of it on their own? [/QUOTE]

The hell's your problem mister? I'm simply stating that I'm a traditionalist who doesn't reject populism or have contempt for the lower classes like Evola did. I agree with much of what Evola and many traditionalists say, I just reject their anti-Christian beliefs and anti-populist stances. I don't know where you get this stuff about me dividing up the movement or being allies with the neo-cons!


Bardamu

2003-10-30 02:50 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Avalanche]I liked rban, and I don't think he hated whites - I think he was SO committed to his Hindu brethren that he just could NOT see any other race as important or worth his committment (and why would we expect it of him? WE prefer our white race; he preferred his own!).

[/QUOTE]

Not really the point since I don't hang out on Hindu forums and insult them. It wouldn't even occur to me to do so. Talk about a waste of time! So far as whether or not rban hates Whites, he said as much in plain English. Something like, "I just hate white people so much." The venom was real. And he truly hates Slavs. The insulting of Slavic women concerning their endentured sexual servitude in Israel and rban's continual mocking of it was highly offensive to me. He was right up there with PolishNobel for indulging in foul insults that alone should get one banned from respectable websites , although PN took the cake by laughing at the German women raped by the soviets at the end of WW2. Some things and the people who say them are beyond the pale and should be :censored: Women getting raped and then murdered during wartime is one of them.


Avalanche

2003-10-30 04:30 | User Profile

!! Oh MY!

I must have missed those threads -- no I certainly don't support him (or anyone) writing such things! I suppose I just didn't see any of those types of posts.

[QUOTE]Something like, "I just hate white people so much." [/QUOTE] This I could understand, I say it about sheeple and neo-cons and so on... But the rest -- no, just not excusable!


Bardamu

2003-10-30 13:02 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Avalanche]!! Oh MY!

[/QUOTE]

Oops, sorry. Sometimes I'm a bit blunt.


Edana

2003-10-30 19:18 | User Profile

I liked Fade... oh well, I must have missed some drama.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-30 21:16 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Edana]I liked Fade... oh well, I must have missed some drama.[/QUOTE]

I liked him too. I just didn't agree with his pro-transhumanist stances, ie making the white race a seperate species and all that.


Edana

2003-10-30 21:48 | User Profile

Huh? Now I know I'm missing something. I thought Ares was the transhumanist.


Ruffin

2003-10-30 22:02 | User Profile

It's OD's loss.

Great post, golfball.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-30 23:28 | User Profile

[QUOTE=AntiYuppie]Rban was given plenty of opportunities to clean up his act and many warnings. I personally (being a moderator at Neocon-Watch) that he was welcome to post most anything he wanted as long as he'd refrain from endless personal attacks against other posters. He seemed unable to handle that, in fact, he got progressively more obnoxious as time went on (his antics included gloating over the death of the family members of another poster, wishing the same upon other members[/QUOTE]

Yes that was my family member he was talking about. He thought it was a good thing that one of my family members was killed due to the incompentency of a Hindu doctor. I even reported that post to Tex(or whoever was moderating that thread). :angry:


W.R.I.T.O.S

2003-11-01 08:47 | User Profile

I'm pretty sure rban was not really a Hindu.


Smedley Butler

2003-11-01 09:25 | User Profile

RBAN-ned was on Sam Francis Forum in 2000 or 2001 and was Hindu this and Hindu that...If he was faking it, he was not white, and that Leo, oh my... A certain hate tribe seem's to have allot of member's that are Bi-Polar, and I had to deal with one on a business deal a while back, and I refuse to ever deal with one again.....


golfball

2003-11-01 17:12 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ruffin]........

Great post, golfball.[/QUOTE]

Well, it's pretty accurate. :cry:


Hugh Lincoln

2003-11-10 22:46 | User Profile

I'm just happy about a web discussion board I'm not banned from. VNN's was pretty lame, Stormfront varies in quality but now has this weird thing going on where you can't see your post for a long time, I can't get on to the GOP website because I don't (yet) have anything but web-based e-mails, Angloweb never really got off the ground (that I've seen), the AR e-list bans all mentions of yoos, and anybody else pretty much freaks out at the slightest mention of racial difference. I never really tried FreeRepublic because everyone here seems to have been kicked off of there.

Being banned from mainstream conservative chat rooms has been somewhat educational, though depressing: you see just what persuades folks (not much) and what doesn't. Maybe it's just my lack of persuasive ability, I don't know. Sometimes I just get frustrated and angry, and like the fellows banned above, just want to rip into my opponents and prove how much smarter I am.

[B]I'm pretty sure rban was not really a Hindu.[/B]

And Donald E. Pauly, Zionist Rastafarian?


il ragno

2003-11-10 23:02 | User Profile

Rban was a buffoon, but he had a Pagliacci charm about him. He reminded me of the Black Knight in MONTY PYTHON, who still continued to hurl invective after his legs and arms were lopped off.

As far as the others, it wouldn't affect me one way or the other if their bans were rescinded. I dislike those guys personally but it's not like I was losing sleep over their fulminations. What the hell, it's only a matter of time now before Ashcroft's Ashkenazis come for all of us here; why bother trying to placate our enemies by voluntarily cleaning house? Try to meet a Zionist halfway and all you're doing is saving him gas and tolls.


Bardamu

2003-11-11 04:02 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno] What the hell, it's only a matter of time now before Ashcroft's Ashkenazis come for all of us here; why bother trying to placate our enemies by voluntarily cleaning house? [/QUOTE]

If they rounded us up it would amount to a spectacular propaganda coup for our side and prove us right all in one fell swoop. I don't think they could manage to prosecute ex post facto anyway. If they passed some law all we have to do it fall back on euphemisms. No, I think they are stuck with a Friend of the Truth internet, at least until they manage to [I]buy up [/I] the entire thing.


LA Refugee

2003-11-11 05:23 | User Profile

[I]And Donald E. Pauly, Zionist Rastafarian?[/I]

Don uses that as a signature line because he thinks all the joos should go to Israel, and the Rastafatarian part means all the blacks should go back to Africa. He started an anti-immigrant news letter and organization a couple of years ago, and is really verbal about his views. Good guy.