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Thread ID: 10728 | Posts: 14 | Started: 2003-10-25
2003-10-25 07:09 | User Profile
[I]This might be huge news, if it lasts. The richest man in Russia and the unoficial USZOG candidate in 2004 presidential elections in Russia has been arrested. On monday the Russian stock market will be in free fall, but Putin once again shows how he understands the primacy of politics over economy. In other words, what is good for business is not always good for the country. Once more, he got his priorities right. For more background, see also [url]http://forums.originaldissent.com/showthread.php?t=8174[/url] .[/I]
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Oct 25, 1:57 AM EDT
Russia Detains Head of Largest Oil Company
By DEBORAH SEWARD Associated Press Writer
MOSCOW (AP) -- Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the head of Russia's largest oil producer, Yukos, was detained early Saturday at an airport in Siberia, the Interfax news agency reported, citing Yukos company officials.
For months, the Russian prosecutor's office has been investigating Yukos company officials and Yukos shareholders seeking evidence of tax evasion and theft of state property.
Yukos spokesman Alexander Shadrin was quoted by Interfax as saying that the plane was surrounded by trucks after it landed in Novosibirsk for a refueling stop.
[B]Special forces in camouflage and black uniform boarded the plane, reportedly shouting "FSB, put your weapons down or we'll shoot." The FSB is the acronym for the Federal Security Service, a successor of the Soviet-era KGB. [/B] A representative of the security forces then told Khodorkovsky to accompany them and he agreed.
Earlier this week, Russian prosecutors searched a company looking for evidence in connection with the criminal probe into Yukos, according to Interfax.
The company, Strategic Communications Agency, allegedly holds computer databases for companies controlled by the Russian oil giant, and Interfax said prosecutors hoped to find evidence of tax evasion on the databases.
Yukos denied that it had any connection to the company.
Interfax, quoting a source close to the investigation, also reported that Khodorkovsky had been summoned for questioning Friday and had not shown up.
The investigation began in July with the arrest of Platon Lebedev, a top Yukos shareholder and board chairman of Menatep Group, on charges of theft of state property during the 1994 privatization of a fertilizer plant. Lebedev has remained in jail awaiting trial.
Last week, prosecutors also filed tax evasion charges against a Yukos manager, Vasily Shakhnovsky, who oversees day-to-day company operations and is responsible for customer relations and auditing.
Prosecutors also have carried out searches of Yukos-owned companies and the homes of Yukos shareholders.
Yukos recently completed its merger with its smaller rival Sibneft to create one of the world's top oil producers, and will formally become the new entity after a November shareholder meeting.
When he was detained on Saturday, Khodorkovsky was on his way from the Volga River town of Nizhny Novgorod to Irkutsk in central Siberia on a business trip. He had been expected back in Moscow on Monday, Interfax reported.
When the plane landed in Novosibirsk shortly before dawn, two buses full of men in camouflage drove up the plane. Khodorovsky was taken away from the airport. "At present, the oil company Yukos is unaware of the whereabouts of M. Khodorkovsky," Interfax quoted Shadrin as saying.
Copyright 2003 Associated Press. All rights reserved.
2003-10-25 16:46 | User Profile
Echoing someone else's sentiment, is it Christmas already?
Beat the zhids, save Russia :rockon:
2003-10-25 19:23 | User Profile
Rumor has it that Putin is planning to re-nationalize Yukos.
Madrussian - is Platon Lebedev a member of the Tribe? How about some of the others around Khodorkovsky?
The ethnic nature of the conflict in Russia is just soooooo bloody obvious, with Gusinsky, Berezovsky, the Chyorny Brothers, Abramovich and now Khodorkovsky taking it in the shorts as the ethnic Russian FSB around Putin and Gazprom pick them off one at a time.
Amazing the way the media resoultely ignore this glaring fact.
Walter
2003-10-25 20:20 | User Profile
The question now is how much longer will Putin last?
In this world we live in, it is the unfortunate truth that very few people have the ability to get away with crossing Jews.
2003-10-25 23:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]
Amazing the way the media resoultely ignore this glaring fact.
Walter[/QUOTE]
I did a random check on some major news sites in Europe (BBC, Le Monde, Süddeutsche Zeitung, Il Corriere della Sera etc.). All of them carry this news in prominent positions. Then I checked MSNBC, CNN and Yahoo in the US - nothing! One whole day after the news broke! They are obviously still waiting for a memo from B'nai B'rith on how to handle the situation... (when they finally post something there will be the usual talk abot 'politically charged justice' etc.). I bet the special cold war phone line between the White House and the Kremlin is red hot right now.
There is definitely something going on in Russia - the Tribe is getting hammered in a way not seen since the 'great purge' in 1937. This time, unfortunately, they are not being shipped to Magadan but to more healthy destinations (UK, US, Israel etc.). Most of them are even allowed to bring their loot with them like they did when fleeing Ancient Egypt (Abramovich recently wired $4 billion to England). This is unfortunate, but it is probably due to the fact that Putin still wants to maintain a working relationship with western judeocracies (while tacitly approving of Mahatir's remarks last week).
There will be negative repercussions. As mentioned, I expect the 'financial community' to severely punish Russia on monday when the stock market reopens. I also expect an ever larger number of Russian Jews to take advantage of the special victim-status laws and emigrate to the US and especially to Germany where the problem solved by the Führer is rapidly being recreated.
2003-10-25 23:43 | User Profile
Mad Russian - Since you're the only Russian I know of to ask, what's your opinion of Putin? I've learned to be very skeptical of leaders who appear to be doing good things... for a while.
Unless he's a very rare sort of chap who actually cares about the country he leads, it seems that he'd have more incentive to play by the AmeriJewish rules, as do most.
If you've commented on this elsewhere, please direct me. Thanks.
2003-10-25 23:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ruffin]Mad Russian - Since you're the only Russian I know of to ask, what's your opinion of Putin? I've learned to be very skeptical of leaders who appear to be doing good things... for a while.
Unless he's a very rare sort of chap who actually cares about the country he leads, it seems that he'd have more incentive to play by the AmeriJewish rules, as do most.
If you've commented on this elsewhere, please direct me. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm Russian-American :)
Personally I believe that while Putin is doing some things good for Russia, overall I have a negative view of him. And his plans to transform Russia's military to a professional force has further dropped my respect for him. Yes the Russian military is in need of reforms, but a professional force is only a short-cut that will go nowhere.
I don't know much about the results of his domestic policy, but his foreign policy is not all great. Although he opposed the US war in Iraq, he still seems to think that the USA is Russia's best friend. Especially under this current American administration, I don't think so! I believe that there can be friendler relations between Russia and America, but anykind of long-term alliance is out of the question. Why? To put it simply America and Russia are simply too different to ever get along in the long-run.
So basically in terms of his policies towards the armed services and foreign policy, I think Putin is doing at best a medicore job.
2003-10-26 00:32 | User Profile
Thanks again, Perun. I'm wondering if Putin is making a few symbolic hits against the Jewish mob in order to shore up his popular support while he sells out to Bush and Co., or if he's a rare one who knows how to be diplomatic abroad as he begins an earnest housecleaning. I think it would be a wonderful thing for a 21st century Hitler to come out of Russia, but I realize it's probably wishful thinking.
2003-10-26 06:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ruffin]Thanks again, Perun. I'm wondering if Putin is making a few symbolic hits against the Jewish mob in order to shore up his popular support while he sells out to Bush and Co., or if he's a rare one who knows how to be diplomatic abroad as he begins an earnest housecleaning. I think it would be a wonderful thing for a 21st century Hitler to come out of Russia, but I realize it's probably wishful thinking.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think that's part of it. Election season is in full swing there. Lots of governors (and in the Russian federal system, the governors are extremely powerful) are facing stiff challenges. This is in part, I think, a populist measure. Raw meat for the Party of Power.
But there's a lot more to it than that. Putin made some very powerful symbolic gestures in this struggle with the Jewish Oligarchs. One was placing a Russian of German ancestry - Alexei Miller - to head GAZPROM, the Russian natural gas monopoly and pillar of the Russian economy. GAZPROM was always a bastion of ethnic Russian wealth and power - like the military industrial complex and the KGB (I'm talking post 1937 here, of course).
Another such gesture was to appoint a Russian American white emigre as head of NTV, the company that Putin had just wrested from Gusinsky - who as head of the Russian Jewish Congress and delegate to the World Jewish Congress had a powerful seat on the Sanhedrin.
All of this is resolutely ignored by our media, of course. But these things are not lost on the people who count in Russia.
Abramovich is leaving. Khodorkovsky is on his way out. The Chyorny Brothers are in Tel Aviv. Berezovsky and Gusinsky are in exile. Who's next?
Putin is a great president.
Walter
2003-10-26 08:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]
Putin is a great president.
Walter[/QUOTE]
I would tend to agree with you, Mr. Yannis. He is not perfect, but he is one of the best leaders of any white nation today (if not the best). He is a realist, painfully aware of the balance of power in today's world, so he nominally plays by the NWO rules and pays lip service to the various Jewish stratagems ('democracy', 'human rights', 'free markets'). He avoids attacking the Jews frontally. On the other side, he will not grovel in fornt of them the way a Bush or a Schröder do on a daily basis for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Occasionally, like on Friday, he will strike against them without compromise. To put things into perspective, what happened on Friday was as if a US president had unleashed an FBI SWAT team on Summer Redstone or Abe Foxman (including handcuffing, Miranda warnings etc.). These are the terms of comparison. Putin might be one of the few good things that (misteriously) came out of Boris Yeltsin's corrupt regime.
Non-EU Eastern European leaders often don't have as much to loose politically by being less obsequious (or sometimes even hostile) towards the Tribe, so Putin is by no means an exception. People of similar persuasion are/were Lukashenko from Belarus, the ex Croatian leader Tudjman etc.
2003-10-26 14:59 | User Profile
Chubais yesterday on the Svanidze show called for Putin to justify his actions to Russian business.
Yikes.
It's getting ugly.
I'll bet Chubais is next on the list now.
That bastard has his hand on the electrical switch for the whole country, too (General Director of the utilities monopoly).
Rumor has it that Chubais has presidential aspirations in 2008.
What do my fellow Russia watchers think of that?
Walter
2003-10-26 16:58 | User Profile
Putin definitely has some hidden potential, just from the fact that he was approved by Berezovsky as Yeltsin's successor but turned out to be more than Berezovsky expected. Berezovsky, in his zhid arrogance and brazenness, boasted that he could as easily remove presidents as make them.
2003-10-26 18:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Rudel] There is definitely something going on in Russia - the Tribe is getting hammered in a way not seen since the 'great purge' in 1937. This time, unfortunately, they are not being shipped to Magadan but to more healthy destinations (UK, US, Israel etc.). Most of them are even allowed to bring their loot with them like they did when fleeing Ancient Egypt (Abramovich recently wired $4 billion to England). This is unfortunate, but it is probably due to the fact that Putin still wants to maintain a working relationship with western judeocracies (while tacitly approving of Mahatir's remarks last week). [/QUOTE]Hmmm. Russia doesn't appear to have any equivalent to our American "war on drugs" inspired, asset forfeiture laws. Or is it really a policy decision by Putin? I don't like the idea of even more Jewish oligarch billions being set loose in the West to create more havoc.
2003-10-26 20:37 | User Profile
This was my letter to PRAVDA:
The US newspapers are reporting the arrest of billionaire Mikhail Khodorkovsky of YUKOS Oil Co., on fraud, forgery, and other charges. Of course, they make no mention of his being part of the Jewish Mafia, or even the the politically correct "Russian" mafia. Nor do they mention the recent historic merger between two large oil companies - Yukos and Sibneft chaired by Roman Abramovich, another member of the mob.
I see a connection here to Afghanistan. Afghanistan lies geographically on the route of a planned pipeline from the Yukos Caucasian oil fields, to the seaport of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea. As more details surface, it becomes obvious that this savage incursion into Afghan territory has less to do with accused terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden and more to do with Washington' s plans for oil and political hegemony in the Caspian region.
The Taliban became the fly in the ointment when the refused to allow the construction of this pipeline through Afghanistan, after Pakistan had approved of it. This came to light in Houston at a conference held for this endeavor on Dec. 7th 1997. Unocal invited a Taliban contingency to visit them in Houston, Texas, housed them in five-star hotels, and dined them at the home of a Unocal VP. Hamid Karzai, an old friend of the Bush family, represented Unocal. I think it is no coincidence that Karzai was appointed by Bush to Govern Afghanistan. At this conference, the Taliban also announced that henceforth, the cultivation of poppies for the drug trade was forbidden. Bad Taliban! Before the ban, Afghanistan was the number one supplier.
Perhaps this is an example of what Mahathir Mohamad, Prime Minister of Malaysia, properly noted that "... the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them.".
Could be.