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2003-10-16 05:56 | User Profile
From correspondents in Putrajaya
October 16, 2003
JEWS rule the world, getting others to fight and die for them, but will not be able to defeat the world's 1.3 billion Muslims, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has told a major Islamic summit.
"The Europeans killed six million Jews out of 12 million. But today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them," Mahathir said, adding, "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews."
The veteran Malaysian premier, who has become notorious for his controversial speeches during his 22 years as leader of this moderate Muslim country, was addressing the opening session of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) summit.
He told the biggest gathering of Muslim leaders since the 2001 attacks on the United States that all Muslims were suffering "oppression and humiliation", with their religion accused of promoting terrorism.
Acknowledging weakness and division in the organisation's ranks, Mahathir said they could at least take a common stand on the Palestinian struggle against Israel and it was time to plan a "counter-attack" against the enemies of Islam who treated Muslims with "contempt and dishonour".
He called on Muslims to emulate the Jewish response to oppression, saying the Jews had "survived 2000 years of pogroms not by hitting back, but by thinking".
"They invented and successfully promoted socialism, communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong, so they may enjoy equal rights with others.
"With these they have now gained control of the most powerful countries and they, this tiny community, have become a world power.
"We cannot fight them through brawn alone, we must use our brains also," he said.
"Of late because of their power and their apparent success they have become arrogant. And arrogant people like angry people will make mistakes, will forget to think.
"They are already beginning to make mistakes. And they will make more mistakes. There may be windows of opportunity for us now and in the future. We must seize these opportunities."
Mahathir, however, who has in the past condemned Palestinian suicide bombers as "terrorists", appeared to suggest that it was time for an end to violence against the Israelis.
"Over the past 50 years of fighting in Palestine we have not achieved any result. We have in fact worsened our situation."
He said the Koran "tells us that when the enemy sues for peace we must react positively. True the treaty offered is not favourable to us. But we can negotiate".
He said he was aware that this proposal could not be popular and its opponents "would want to send more young men and women to make the supreme sacrifice. But where will all these lead to? Certainly not victory."
However, he did call on Muslims to match their studies of religion with attention to science and mathematics because "we need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships for our defence".
This was apparently a reference to what he sees as a broader assault on Muslims by the Western world in the guise of the war on terrorism. He said enemies of Islam "attack and kill us, invade our lands, bring down our governments".
Among the more than 30 Muslim leaders present for the summit are Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz of Saudi Arabia and Megawati Sukarnoputri, the president of the world's largest Muslim country Indonesia.
AFP
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2003-10-16 16:17 | User Profile
However, notice him ignorantly spouting the Holocau$t "6 million" lie -- and thus unknowingly and unconsciously supporting the Jewish agenda and interests.
The Muslim world (and us) must tackle the Holocau$t phantasms if we're to have any success. That's what world Jewry fears most. That's why it's illegal in most western countries to question any aspect of the official Nuremburg narrative. What kind of "truth" needs this type of legal protection? You can question the existence of God, but not of the magical, supernatural gas chamber at Auschwitz -- and that's an indication of the type of power (and arrogance and effrontery so typical of the Special People) the Jews have in this world (and what they think of themselves).
THERE'S NO WAY OUT BUT THROUGH THE JEW!
"The Jew is the enemy of mankind"
-Voltaire
World - AP Asia
Malaysian Urges Muslims to Unite Vs. Jews 48 minutes ago
By ROHAN SULLIVAN, Associated Press Writer
PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Thursday told a summit of Islamic leaders that "Jews rule the world by proxy" and the world's 1.3 billion Muslims should unite, using nonviolent means for a "final victory."
His speech at the Organization of the Islamic Conference summit, which he was hosting, drew criticism from Jewish leaders, who warned it could spark more violence against Jews.
Mahathir ââ¬â known for his outspoken, anti-Western rhetoric ââ¬â criticized what he described as Jewish domination of the world and Muslim nations' inability to adequately respond to it.
"The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy," Mahathir said, opening the meeting of Islamic leaders from 57 nations. "They get others to fight and die for them."
Malaysia, a democratic nation that has a large non-Muslim population and does not enforce strict Islamic law, has long been a critic of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories and of U.S. policy in the Middle East, including the war in Iraq (news - web sites) and Washington's strong backing of the Jewish state.
Mahathir, 77, who is retiring Oct. 31, has used almost every international podium to lambaste the West for two decades, winning a reputation as an outspoken champion of Third World causes.
"For well over half a century, we have fought over Palestine. What have we achieved? Nothing. We are worse off than before," he said. "If we had paused to think, then we could have devised a plan, a strategy that can win us final victory."
The prime minister, who has turned his country into the world's 17th-ranked trading nation during his 22 years in power, said Jews "invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy" to avoid persecution and gain control of the most powerful countries.
Mahathir added that "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews," but he suggested using political and economic tactics instead of violence.
He told the audience of sheiks, emirs, kings and presidents that Muslims had the richest civilization in the world during Europe's Dark Ages, but disputes over dogma ââ¬â instead of embracing technology and science ââ¬â had left them weak and divided.
"Because we are discouraged from learning of science and mathematics as giving us no merit for the afterlife, today we have no capacity to produce our own weapons for our defense. We have to buy our weapons from our detractors and enemies," he said.
The leaders gave Mahathir a standing ovation afterward.
"I think it was a shrewd and very deep assessment of the situation," said Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher, without commenting on the remarks about the Jews. "I think he elaborated a program of action that is wide and very important. I hope the Islamic countries will be able to follow this very important road map."
Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Jonathan Peled expressed disappointment in the remarks but said he wasn't surprised.
"It is not new that in such forums there is always an attempt to reach the lowest common denominator, which is Israel bashing," he said in Jerusalem. "But obviously we'd like to see more moderate and responsible kind of declarations coming out of such summits."
Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, said Mahathir has used anti-Israel statements in the past to prove he's tough on the West. But, he said, Thursday's speech was still worrisome.
"What is profoundly shocking and worrying is the venue of the speech, the audience and coming in the time we're living in," Cooper said during a visit to Jerusalem. "Mahathir's speech today is an absolute invitation for more hate crimes and terrorism against Jews. That's serious."
U.S. Ambassador to Malaysia Marie Huhtala declined to comment on Mahathir's speech. Washington was angered over a speech he made in February, as host of the Non-Aligned Movement of 117 countries, in which he described the looming war against Iraq as racist.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai, while not addressing Mahathir's comments on the Jews, said he supported his analysis, which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially.
"It is great to hear Prime Minister Mahathir speak so eloquently on the problems of the ummah (Muslim world) and ways to remedy them," Karzai said. "His speech was an eye-opener to a lot of us and that is what the Islamic world should do."
The summit is the first since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks reshaped global politics and comes at a time when many Muslims ââ¬â even U.S. allies ââ¬â feel the war on terrorism has become a war against them.
"It is well known that the Islamic community is being targeted today more than at any other time before in its creed, culture and social and political orientation," said Qatar's ruler, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who hosted the U.S. headquarters in the Iraq war.
The status of Iraq also proved a divisive issue. Malaysia resisted inviting the U.S.-picked Iraqi Governing Council, describing it as a puppet of American occupation. But Arab countries that have recognized the interim body prevailed and council representatives were attending the summit.
U.N. Secretary-general Kofi Annan (news - web sites), in a statement from U.N. headquarters, urged the leaders to reject suicide bombings against Israel and help transform Iraq into a peaceful democracy.
Annan described the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory as harsh, with "disproportionate military force, destruction of houses and crops, unjust expropriation and closures, illegal settlements, and a fence being built on land that does not belong to the builders."
But he said suicide bombings damaged even the most legitimate cause and "must be condemned, and must be stopped."
Leaders attending the summit included Jordan's King Abullah, Syrian President Bashar Assad, Morocco's King Mohammed VI, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri.
Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) and Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (news - web sites) are attending as special observers because of their large Muslim minorities.
[url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031016/ap_on_re_as/islamic_summit[/url]
2003-10-16 18:32 | User Profile
I applaud this President Mahathir for his speech. Bravo! Well said and very truthful. I would even vote for him if he ran against Jorge. I wonder what would happen if the President who names the jew, was White and speaking in a Western nation summit??? The jewish responses against Mahathir's speech are mild in their hatefulness.
2003-10-16 19:50 | User Profile
It really is amazing. Almost every country in the world is aware of who rules Amerika except Amerikans :wallbash: ...The French, Germans, Japanese, Russians, Muslims, and even the Brits acknowledge the jew ruled United States. I believe I read that Putin was at this meeting too.
2003-10-16 21:52 | User Profile
Breaking news! Muslims don't like Jews! Read all about it!
2003-10-16 22:11 | User Profile
Well, that sounds like anti-Sandwich-spread to me. Why do people hate sandwich spread? I love it myself...
"Yes, Tex, I'll have a grilled-cheese-on-white-bread, a pickle, chips, a salad, and.....a bagel. No, I'll eat it here."
:)
2003-10-18 20:16 | User Profile
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-10-16-malaysia-summit_x.htm[/url]
Now here's a guy worth voting for.
Anyone for moving to Malaysia? Are the women there as beautiful as in Thailand?
2003-10-19 18:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Buster][url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-10-16-malaysia-summit_x.htm[/url]
Now here's a guy worth voting for.
Anyone for moving to Malaysia? Are the women there as beautiful as in Thailand?[/QUOTE]
The women are quite pretty and very feminine (it's a Muslim country, what can I say), but they're of a different race and religion, so put the thought right out of your mind.
That notwithstanding, I could have kissed Mahathir for saying that. What a guy!
I mean, here we have the PM of a very successful little country (not so terribly little, actually) standing up in a major world organization and shouting ITZ!! ITZ!!!!
I love it.
Mrs. Yannis and I had dinner last night with a couple I've been working working on for years. These folks are DC Metro Area Democrats, and they were saying stuff I couldn't believe!!!!! They talked favourably of the Malaysian PM's speech, and even called runaway Tribal power the "elephant in the living room!"
I'm much heartened by this. The masks are sloooowly being pried off.
The hard truth is that we owe any future success to the Neo-Cons themselves, who have stepped in a very large pile of sh*t. They are proving to be their own worse enemies.
Worse is indeed better, lads.
Mahathir for President!!!
Walter
2003-10-19 18:18 | User Profile
Thats the good thing about the Palestinian problem, that the Jews and USrael lose their mask for the rest of the world.
2003-10-21 00:23 | User Profile
Gosh! I've been worrying about the Jews all this time for nothing! They aren't really in control!
http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/361635|top|10-20-2003::10:27|reuters.html
Bush Tells Mahathir His Jew Remarks Are 'Wrong'
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Oct 20, 10:20 AM (ET)
By Darren Schuettler BANGKOK (Reuters) - President Bush told Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad his remarks about Jews controlling the West by proxy were "wrong and divisive," the White House said Monday.
"It stands squarely against what I believe," Bush told Mahathir during an Asia-Pacific summit in Bangkok, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
Mahathir, attending his last major summit before retiring this month after 22 years in power, was in the same room with Bush during a session of the two-day Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum which ends Tuesday.
Mahathir, 78, has not commented on his encounter with Bush.
The outspoken Malaysian leader provoked an outcry when he told an Islamic summit last week the Jewish people had an influence in the world that far outweighed their numbers.
"The Europeans killed six million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy," Mahathir said.
The White House said earlier Monday people of all faiths should condemn Mahathir's remarks.
"It's not the first time that he's made outrageous remarks, and those remarks were hate-filled remarks," McClellan said.
Malaysian officials say the remarks were taken out of context and the thrust of his speech was that the Arabs should stop fighting a losing battle with Israel and sue for peace.
Mahathir himself was unapologetic when asked last week about the furor his comments had caused, and some Arab leaders said he was simply telling it like it is.
"The fact is that they are biased, most of them are biased. They think while it is proper to criticize Muslims and Arabs, it is not proper to criticize Europeans and Jews," he told reporters after closing the Islamic summit hosted by Malaysia.
Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar gave Secretary of State Colin Powell an explanation of Mahathir's speech Monday, but he did not convince Powell that the remarks were innocuous, a State Department spokesman said in Bangkok.
SWIPE AT RICH NATIONS
Mahathir, who has said he likes to speak his mind, took a swipe at rich nations Monday for seeking to impose unfair trade deals on developing countries.
"We are ready to be exploited, but we must be fairly exploited," he told business leaders during an APEC-related session on globalization.
He compared the push for global free trade to the colonial era when rich countries used military force to secure trading rights from the developing world.
Mahathir was born under British colonial rule and has been haunted by fear that Malaysia could slip back into economic re-colonization.
"Today, we cannot really send gunboats to ensure that we can trade with (a) nation. So we have the WTO and an agenda of interest to the people who proposed the agenda, namely the rich countries," he said.
APEC leaders meeting Monday and Tuesday in Bangkok are expected to throw their weight behind measures to restart the so-called Doha round of World Trade Organization talks.
Several APEC members were among the developed and developing countries which clashed bitterly in Cancun, Mexico, last month over how to pull down trade barriers.
Mahathir said the talks collapsed because the agenda favored wealthy Western countries.
"We have been haggling over the agenda for some time and we in the developing countries find that we are losing out," he said. "The stress should be fair trade, rather than free trade. Fair trade can be free, but free trade can be unfair."
Using South Korea as a blueprint, Mahathir transformed Malaysia from an agrarian backwater into one of the world's top 20 trading nations, with a national auto industry and major exports of tin, rubber and other commodities.
2003-10-21 01:00 | User Profile
It is a blackly hilarious comment on how far down Alice's rabbit-hole we have tumbled that we reserve our full ire for "hate", which comes exclusively in the form of the written and/or spoken word...while we are trained to deliriously cheer for "peace and freedom", which are uniformly delivered from tank guns, fighter jets and the point of a bayonet.
2003-10-21 16:50 | User Profile
Unrepentant Mahathir Says Jews Control the World
By Ed Cropley
BANGKOK (Reuters) - An unrepentant Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad repeated Tuesday his belief that Jews rule the world, denied President Bush (news - web sites) had rebuked him for it and hit out at Australian leader John Howard.
Mahathir, who steps down at the end of the month after 22 years in power, told the Bangkok Post in an interview that widespread criticism of his recent remark that "Jews rule the world by proxy" proved he was right.
"The reaction of the world shows that they control the world," he told the newspaper.
"Israel is a small country. There are not so many Jews in the world. But they are so arrogant, they defy the whole world. Even if the United Nations (news - web sites) says no, they go ahead. Why? Because they have the backing of all these people," Mahathir said.
Bush called the initial comments -- which the outspoken leader of largely Muslim Malaysia said were taken out of context -- "wrong and divisive," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
"It stands squarely against what I believe," he quoted Bush as telling Mahathir during the annual summit of the 21-member Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (news - web sites) forum in Bangkok.
But Mahathir said reports Bush had rebuked him were wrong.
"Certainly, he did not rebuke me," Mahathir told a news conference after the two-day summit ended. "All he said was that 'I regret today to have to use strong words against you'," Mahathir said.
"After that we were walking practically hand-in-hand."
The Nazi-hunting Simon Wiesenthal Center said Mahathir's speech could spur violence against Jews.
"This is incitement against Jews and it provides a rationale and motivation for terror against Jews," Ephraim Zuroff, director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Israel, told Reuters.
The World Union for Progressive Judaism, an umbrella body grouping liberal and reform Jewish communities around the world, urged acting U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Bertrand Ramcharan to speak out against Mahathir's "racist remarks."
FROSTY POLITENESS AHEAD
Australian Prime Minister John Howard, speaking after the interview was published, promised frosty politeness when he met Mahathir on the final day of the summit.
"I will maintain cordiality and no more with Dr. Mahathir," he said.
Mahathir, who has always had a prickly relationship with his counterparts from Canberra whom he accuses of trying to be the U.S. 'deputy sheriff' in Asia, said Howard was merely performing to type.
"There's a fondness among leaders in Australia, prime ministers of Australia, to make nasty comments like calling me recalcitrant, et cetera," he said.
"John Howard did the same thing, repeatedly, even casting aspersions on our judicial system, as if we do not understand law, we don't understand fair deal and justice."
"In fact, we do. We had a very good history of treating our aborigines, for example. We didn't shoot them dead. We didn't commit genocide. So when making criticism of other people, please look at your own background and temper it with some humility."
In the Bangkok Post interview, Mahathir complained that reports of his remarks on Jews last week to an Islamic summit in Malaysia, which the United States, the European Union (news - web sites), Australia and others denounced as anti-Semitic, "just picked up one sentence in my speech."
News accounts had ignored his condemnation of all violence, including suicide bombings, and his call on Muslims to heed the teachings of the Koran and talk peace with Israel, he said.
Asked why he thought this was the case, Mahathir replied: "Well, many newspapers are owned by Jews. They only see that angle and they have a powerful influence over the thinking of many people. Only their side of the picture is given now."
New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark disputed that.
"Having seen the item on television myself, it's hard to see how you could have misinterpreted it. It was a most unfortunate message," she said
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2003-10-21 17:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE]"The reaction of the world shows that they control the world," he told the newspaper. [/QUOTE]
Ta-DAAA!!
Yesterday I stopped by a coffee shop where the radio was tuned to Neocon Hate Speech, in this case Mike "Weiner" Savage foaming at the mouth about the "Malaysian Hitler", whom he characterized as "anti-Semitic scum".
"Turn that Jew shit off!" I said reflexively - totally without thinking.
The guy behind the counter looked at me...not belligerently; just stunned. Figuring [I]in for apenny, in for a pound[/I], I blurted out "what, do we nuke the whole f'n [I]planet [/I] now because some Jew is upset that somebody noticed they run the whole damn show?"
And a middle-aged woman who had been quietly sipping a cup of coffee murmured, "That man (Mahathir) is only saying the truth."
"[B]Thank you![/B]" I halleluja'ed, paid for my cigarettes, and left. The radio was still on when I left.
What does it all mean? Probably nothing. But another infintesimal chip loosened and fell off the stone facade. We'll need a few more million to fall before we can overcome a half-century of 'never mind you and yours - [B]first[/B], protect every last Jew from even the [I]mildest [/I] discomfort' conditioning...but a chip is a chip.
2003-10-21 17:28 | User Profile
Naming the Jew prolongs your life :lol:
Jew shite, jew, eeewww. See how natural it is?
2003-10-21 17:31 | User Profile
This man, Mahathir, is retiring from office soon and I think he needed to get something off his chest that was truly bothering him. Perfect timing for the President to speak of a monumental hidden Truth in front of a world audience! And I just love his unrepentive attitude!
Talking with a black guy from work yesterday who liked what the Malaysian President had to say; The black guy asked me, "Who didn't know that already?" I said "Not enough people know it, and they're affected by jews in every facet of their own lives." Are blacks (and Third Worlders) more in the know about jewish domination of the world than Whites??
Any more retiring presidents out there who would name the eww for the world?? Let's write to them.
2003-10-21 22:59 | User Profile
Hello all,
I've been lurking for a while, but decided it was time to show my face. I just have to comment on the media uproar over these comments. It seems to me that the very fact that every media outlet has to comment on how terrible an event this was, is proof in itself that he was right.
As I right this, the national news is playing on TV. Not a single mention yet of Israel's barbaric attack on Gaza.
Dan
2003-10-21 23:03 | User Profile
Please excuse my brief brush with illiteracy. I meant to say "as I write this", not "right this". If I could "right" this zionist problem I would be a hero!
Dan
2003-10-22 00:09 | User Profile
il ragno,
First of all, interesting informal poll you conducted, but don't you know them cigarettes'll kill ya? No, I'm not referring to the cancer, but aren't you likely to be beaten to death in city limits by the anti-smoking nannies running loose there? Besides, aren't smokes like 7 bucks a pack in the city now? You might end up broke! Sheesh, if I had the wherewithal, I'd give up my line of work and go smuggling cancer sticks into the Big Apple full-time.
Anyway, I hope you don't mind, but I swiped this from the piddle contest over there on the "Joe Millionaire" thread because I think it's very apropos here.
Let me clarify. The direction should always be louder than before, and closer to the light.
It's one thing to say in this struggle, individuals should proceed with reasonable caution - since there are powerful forces (government, media, academia and shell-shocked public opinion) aligned against the truth. This is true.
But each subsequent step should be an incremmental step towards a higher profile. What you may find is that more people than you think share your beliefs, and that they are grateful for that liberating release of fear-induced tension that comes from somebody else saying what theythought they were alone in thinking.
Seems that this is exactly what Mahathir did. Granted, he's retiring, so he's less to lose, but still, the senitment was like an Altoid washing away some of that gefilte fish reek.
I've also been informally tracking the life of this story, and it seems Mahathir struck a big ol' raw nerve. After an intial attempt to ignore the remarks, the memo has gone out to everyone (and I mean everyone) to grind this guy's remarks into the dirt. Today, the 21st, was particularly entertaining. I had to spend the day at home waiting for a couple of utility hooker-uppers to show up (naturally this took hours longer than it should have) and it afforded me the opportunity to listen to all the neocon radio today, including Ingraham, O'Reilly, the stand-in for Rush "Methadone Enema" Limbaugh, and worst of all, Hannity. Without exception, they all spent an hour or so blasting Mahathir and raking him over the coals, and of course they only took calls from folks who thought the guy was a racist, Nazi, anti-Semitic nut, etc. etc. They didn't even allow a token opponent on this one, I guess because the issue was too important and because Rush wasn't in to make fun of them.
Fortunately, I was out of there before Savage came on, but it was like they were all reading from the same script (which they might very well have been), down to the same phrasing and such.
Fascinating that the hysterical reaction from every major press organ, worldwide (with the exception of Arab media, of course), has been exactly the same, which kinda proves the guy's point, doesn't it?
2003-10-22 00:23 | User Profile
Well, if you can quote me, MST, then I can certainly quote a much much better writer on this topic, one Joseph Sobran:
[QUOTE]It’s permissible to discuss the power of every other group, from the Black Muslims to the Christian Right, but the much greater power of the Jewish Establishment is off-limits. That, in fact, is the chief measure of its power: its ability to impose its own taboos while tearing down the taboos of others — you might almost say its prerogative of offending. You can read articles in Jewish-controlled publications from the Times to Commentary blaming Christianity for the Holocaust or accusing Pope Pius XII of indifference to it, but don’t look for articles in any major publication that wants to stay in business examining the Jewish role in Communism and liberalism, however temperately.
Power openly acquired, openly exercised, and openly discussed is one thing. You may think organized labor or the Social Security lobby abuses its power, but you don’t jeopardize your career by saying so. [B]But a kind of power that forbids its own public mention[/B], like the Holy Name in the Old Testament, is another matter entirely. [/QUOTE]
2003-10-22 02:08 | User Profile
It's good to see him defend his position as well:
[QUOTE]BANGKOK, Thailand (AP)--Despite criticism by President Bush and other world leaders, an unrepentant Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad repeated his charge that Jews control the world.
In an interview published Tuesday with the Bangkok Post, Mahathir stood by his earlier statements on Jews and said the global reaction ``shows that (Jews) do control the world.''
``Israel is a small country. There are not many Jews in the world. But they are so arrogant that they defy the whole world. Even if the United Nations say no, they go ahead. Why? Because they have the backing of all these people,'' Mahathir was quoted as saying. [/QUOTE]
Israel is also a top base for internet attacks seeing that they have to disrupt the information highway that exposes them:
[QUOTE]JERUSALEM (UPI) -- A survey by Symantec says Middle Eastern countries comprised six of the top 10 bases for Internet attacks, it was reported Monday.
In the first half of 2003, the top offenders included Israel as well as Iran, Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates, WorldTribune.com said.
Symantec ranked the threats according to the size of a country's Internet population base. Israel was cited as the biggest source of Web-based attacks with an Internet user base of more than 1 million, Middle East Newsline reported.
About 80 percent of all attacks originated from systems located in 10 countries.
"The Internet is a great leveler and the issue of Web security in the Middle East is no different from any other part of the world," Kevin Isaac, regional director at Symantec, said.[/QUOTE]
And of course this:
[B]Jewish Lobby Does 'Rule' The US[/B] By Shahanaaz Habib
[QUOTE]"And why was there no attempt by the Western media to prove [Mahathir] wrong by showing that the Jews are not proxy rulers? Instead, they just indulged in bashing, name-calling and tagged him as anti-semitic."
Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad's opening speech at last week's Organisation of Islamic Conference Summit in Putrajaya has been criticised by many in the West as being anti-Jew, disgusting and repulsive. Is this a correct perception?
No, really. Which bit of Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir Mohamad's speech at the opening of OIC summit is inflammatory, offensive, repugnant and deserving of contempt? That he called on Muslims to use their brains and not just brawn to fight their enemies? That he told them to stop blowing themselves up? And not act out of anger as irrational acts only beget more violence? Or that the Malaysian leader told Muslims they could learn a lesson or two from the Jews? And that numbers alone do not make strength?
This means unity - something the 1.3 billion Muslims lack and the few million Jews have.
Or was it his remarks that the Jews have become arrogant and arrogant people make mistakes? Or that the Jews rule the world by proxy and get others to fight and die for them?
Now, really, which of these are untrue?
Just take the Jewish-rule-the-world by proxy comment.
Why the uproar about it? Isn't this a known fact? The difference perhaps is that others have not expressed it in such blatant terms as the plain-speaking Malaysian Prime Minister. But many have studied and written on the powerful Jewish lobby in the US administration, their control of the media, influence on economy and even Hollywood.
A number of Jews sit in key positions in the US administration and they steer much of the US foreign policy. Just take the current George W. Bush administration. There's Paul Wolfowitz, deputy defence secretary and close advisor of foreign policy, and Richard Perle, chairman of the Defence Policy Board, the Pentagon's advisory panel. Perle comes with a colourful past. In the 1970s, he was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office for passing highly-classified documents to the Israeli embassy. And later, he worked for an Israeli weapons firm, while Wolfowitz is said to have close ties with the Israeli military.
Another intriguing character is Elliot Abrams, who is in the National Security Council (NSC), the principal forum for security and foreign affairs for the US president.
Hawkish, very pro-Israeli, Abrams is best known for his role in the Iran Contra scandal where arms were illegally sold to Iran to fight Iraq. He pleaded guilty in 1991 about lying to Congress over the affair and a year later received a full pardon from Bush senior.
And today Abrams advises Bush junior on Middle East affairs and gets to present papers on policy to Condoleezza Rice, the National Security Advisor. There's also Douglas Feith, undersecretary of Defence and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon whose appointment caused quite a stir in the Arab world.
Arab-American Institute president Dr James Zogby called it a "dangerous appointment" because having Feith, known for his extreme anti-Arab bias, as a chief architect of the US foreign policy was bad news for the Middle East.
There are also others like Dov Zekheim the under-secretary of Defence, Richard Haas ñ director of planning at the state department and a strong advocate of the bombing of Iraq, Marc Grossman under-secretary for political affairs, James Schelesinger, an advisor to the Pentagon, Lincoln Bloomfield assistant secretary of state for political military affairs and Robert Zoellick and Robert Satloff.
With so many pro-Israeli American Jews in the US administration, why is there a problem when someone states the obvious? And questions who is really in charge? And puts in perspective why US policies are always skewed in favour of Israel no matter how unfair?
One should not also forget the 60,000-strong American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the influential Jewish lobby group with deep pockets which funds election and re-election campaigns of senators, congressmen and presidents.
Although Jews make up only 2% to 3% of the US population, Jewish political scientist and author Benjamin Ginsberg points out that close to half of America's billionaires are Jews. Just take Bill Clinton's re-election campaign in 1996.
A member of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organisations was quoted in a Jerusalem Post report that Jews alone had contributed 50% of funds for Clinton's campaign.
Therefore it is hardly surprising when Dr Fahed Fanek, a leading Jordanian economics and media consultant, writes that AIPAC has "enough clout to make or break politicians." Bush "trembles with fear" at AIPAC which can "easily set the US media against him," he says.
That fear is understandable since the Jews own a great chunk of the media and, in those they don't, they wield considerable influence.
Ginsberg notes the three major television networks in the United States have Jews as chief executive officers and that Jews own the nation's largest newspaper chain and the influential newspaper New York Times. Kevin McDonald's of California State University in his study on Jews and the Media writes that the extent of Jewish ownership in media is remarkable. These include holdings in major media companies like CNN, Time magazine, CBS, ABC, Wall Street Journal and Newsweek.
As for non Jew-owned media such as Fox News and NBC, he says ethnic Jews hold major managerial roles there.
There is also coercion of the media.
Dr Fahed cites the example of the Los Angeles Times losing 1,000 subscriptions in a single day for printing reports deemed not sufficiently supportive of Israel's military action in the West Bank.
Another popular newspaper, he says was forced to apologise to readers for printing a photograph of a pro-Israeli rally that had a few anti-Israel demonstrators in the background!
Even former US joint chiefs of staff Admiral Thomas Moorer was once so exasperated with the Israeli- Jewish hold on the United States and that no US president dared to stand up to them.
"If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our Government, they would rise up in arms.
"Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on," he had said.
So wasn't Dr Mahathir at the OIC summit then just calling a spade a spade and telling it as it is? And why was there no attempt by the Western media to prove him wrong by showing that the Jews are not proxy rulers?
Instead, they just indulged in bashing, name-calling and tagged him as anti-semitic.
Syrian editor Fuad Mardoud who listened to Dr Mahathir's opening speech at the summit says anyone who read or listened to the speech would not get a feeling of anti-semitism from it.
So he thinks the Western media take on the speech is a deliberate attempt to defame the leader.
"Dr Mahathir is rising as a great Islamic leader. "The West anticipates that he will gain big results for the Muslim world so this is their way to cut it short," he says.
While some like Fuad may favour the conspiracy theory, the angling by the Western media may just be a case of different worlds, different perceptions, like some seeing half a glass of water as the glass being half empty and others seeing it half full.
The Muslim world has failed to unite on many issues in the past; honestly telling the Muslims to pause and think out strategies is certainly not "breaking news" as far as the international media is concerned.
It is far more exciting to stir up a controversy. That makes sensational headlines. In the opening speech, Dr Mahathir stressed that revenge, anger and violence was not the way for Muslims to go forward but this did not attract much attention in the Western media.
And really this shouldn't be such a big deal.
Because what matters at the end of the day is whether the Muslim leaders and 1.3bil Muslims worldwide get the message.
And whether they take up the challenge to pause, think and strategise to unite the Muslim ummah. [/QUOTE]
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2003-10-22 02:58 | User Profile
Welcome, Dan. Nice recovery on the right/write typo.
2003-10-22 14:43 | User Profile
Russian President Vladimir Putin refused to denounce Mahathir's comments:
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[QUOTE]President Vladimir Putin, who attended the summit as a guest, sidestepped the controversy.
"Our idea is that a person of any nationality should feel comfortable in any part of the world. This is our basic idea," Putin told a panel discussion Sunday on the sidelines of an Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit that opens in Thailand on Monday.
Russia is developing increasingly close ties with Malaysia through aviation and arms deals and Putin was careful to avoid any confrontation with Mahathir.
Asked about Mahathir's statement, Putin paused before answering. "We would think that it would be correct if the Russian Federation, with its 20 million Muslim population, would strengthen its ties and its relations with the Muslim world," Putin said.
He said Russia is a multidenominational and multinational country with "certain traditions of interactions between nations and religions." [/QUOTE]
Walter