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Thread ID: 10498 | Posts: 3 | Started: 2003-10-15
2003-10-15 08:04 | User Profile
[I]In the wake of the deployment of Turkish troops in Iraq as American Janissearies, it will be interesting to see what Turkey will get in exchange. Turkey entering the fray could create a whole new dimension in the war. The quid-pro-quo will likely include: - open-ended Turkish occupation of the Kurdish areas - Turkish exploatation of the northern oilfields - more American and IMF cash for Turkey - a strong US push for the Turkey's entry in the EU
All this at the price of inflaming the Kurds (Turkish troops will initially be positioned in central Iraq, but their supply lines will traverse Kurdish areas, making a conflict escalation all but certain) and probably the south Iraq too (the population in the south is heavily influenced by Iran, a historic enemy of Turkey). It will be interesting to follow the developments in the comming weeks. Also, let's not forget that Turkey is Israel's the only Islamic ally, and Israel has often pulled its strings in the US for Turkey. For example - I still remember when Jewish controlled politicians in Washington have repealed a law that would have introduced a day of remembrance for the Turkish genocide over Armenians (in part to curry favor with Turkey, in part to safeguard their sacred monopoly on 'holocaust-like' stories).
Regarding the EU-Turkey issue, it is worth remembering what our Jewish overlords think about the further demographic/cultural destabilization of the EU by forcing Turkey's entrance:[/I]
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4559352-111247,00.html[/url]
US hawk wants Turkey in EU Richard Norton-Taylor Tuesday December 3, 2002 The Guardian
A leading hawk in the Bush administration hailed Turkey yesterday as a democracy which could be a model for other Muslim countries - including a post-Saddam Iraq - and said the continued exclusion of the country from the European Union was "unthinkable".
Paul Wolfowitz, America's deputy defence secretary, said it was "impossible to overstate how decisive" the next two weeks would be for relations between Turkey, a key US ally, and the west. They were of "huge strategic importance", he said.
Mr Wolfowitz, who delivered a keynote speech at the International Institute of Strategic Studies in London, was referring to the recent election victory of Turkey's AK party which has a strong Islamist identity, and next week's European summit in Copenhagen where the US insists the EU must open the way to Turkish membership.
[B]Turkey was facing "a defining moment in its relationship with Europe and the west", he said. [U]An EU which welcomed Turkey would be "stronger, safer, even more richly diverse than it is today"[/U], said Mr Wolfowitz. "The alternative, exclusionary, choice is surely unthinkable"[/B], he added.
Turkey demonstrated that a democratic system was "indeed compatible with Islam" and it could "also serve as an inspiration to Iraq", he said.
Mr Wolfowitz, who met the exiled group the Iraqi National Congress in London, is meeting officials in the Turkish capital, Ankara, today on the heels of the foreign secretary, Jack Straw. He made it clear that Turkey would provide a base in any US-led military invasion of Iraq.
2003-10-15 09:36 | User Profile
They need to go to school and learn that Turkey is not in Europe.
2003-10-15 11:26 | User Profile
Turkey's entry into Iraq has to be destabilizing.
I'm no expert on the history of the Ottoman Empire, but I know for sure that Arab resentment of Turkish-Mongol rule runs very deep indeed.
To say nothing of the Kurds who hate the Turks with a living passion, as the Turks enter the de-facto Kurdish free state in norther Iraq even as the Turks oppress and kill their brothers across the border in Southeastern Turkey. And there's oil to fight over. It's shaping up nicely.
Just like in Vietnam, I'm seeing a total failure on the part of our elites to read the situation.
Which is very good news for our cause.
Worse is better.
Turkey's entry into Europe is suicide for our race in Europe. It will mean the slow destruction of religious and personal freedom, as Europe is slowly roasted brown over the campfires of Mohammed.
Let's pray Iraq blows up in the Empire's face. Maybe that can somehow save the day.
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Walter