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Thread ID: 10486 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2003-10-14
2003-10-14 21:02 | User Profile
From Agence France-Presse: [url]http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7564044%255E1702,00.html[/url]
Dog in court over Nazi salute
October 14, 2003
A GERMAN man who taught his dog to raise its right paw in a Hitler salute is to appear in court this week in Berlin.
The black mongrel sheepdog, called Adolf, is alleged to have performed the trick at his master's request in front of two policemen.
They had been called in to question 54-year-old Roland T after he shouted "Sieg Heil" and raised his own right arm in a salute.
Roland T, who lives in Lichtenrade, southern Berlin, is further accused of wearing a T-shirt with a picture of the Nazi dictator and of shouting Hitler slogans on previous occasions.
A spokeswoman told AFP that the court would have to decide whether he was mentally responsible for his acts.
She said the dog would not be called as a witness.
Nazi slogans and greetings are illegal in Germany, where the dictatorship remains a hugely controversial and touchy subject.
To get around code symbols within the neo-Nazi scene, the law also forbids words or actions that can be interpreted as condoning or remembering Nazism ââ¬â and that, said the spokeswoman, can include using a dog to convey the message.
Carola Ruff, of a Berlin animal welfare group, said that any dog could be trained to do what its master wants.
"Raising a paw is what they're born to do," she told the Berliner Kurier.
2003-10-14 23:07 | User Profile
LOL thank god we replaced Hitler's tyrannical police state with a democracy with a CONSTITUTION that guarantees our fweedoms!
2003-10-15 03:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Leland Gaunt]This just goes to show in what a lunatic state we live in.[/QUOTE]
Were things this pathetic under the old GDR Leland?
2003-10-15 05:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]Were things this pathetic under the old GDR Leland?[/QUOTE]
I don't think any of my grandparent's generation could've thought it would be this bad. I know little about the GDR, cause I was just around 6 or 7 years old when it was "reunified." From what I have read they brought back the "Weimarer Reichsverfassung," (the Weimar Constitution of 1919) which I hate the Weimar Republic just as I hate the BRD or DDR. Neither were actually german and all were perverted in their culture and politics, the latter being a stalinist puppet-state. Both the post-war governments practiced extream "Entnazifizierung" (denazification). Which news story is one of the most extream that I have heard.
Deutschland erwache!
2003-10-16 06:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]From Agence France-Presse: [url]http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7564044%255E1702,00.html[/url]
Dog in court over Nazi salute
October 14, 2003
A GERMAN man who taught his dog to raise its right paw in a Hitler salute is to appear in court this week in Berlin.
The black mongrel sheepdog, called Adolf, is alleged to have performed the trick at his master's request in front of two policemen.
They had been called in to question 54-year-old Roland T after he shouted "Sieg Heil" and raised his own right arm in a salute.
Roland T, who lives in Lichtenrade, southern Berlin, is further accused of wearing a T-shirt with a picture of the Nazi dictator and of shouting Hitler slogans on previous occasions.
A spokeswoman told AFP that the court would have to decide whether he was mentally responsible for his acts.
She said the dog would not be called as a witness.
Nazi slogans and greetings are illegal in Germany, where the dictatorship remains a hugely controversial and touchy subject.
To get around code symbols within the neo-Nazi scene, the law also forbids words or actions that can be interpreted as condoning or remembering Nazism ââ¬â and that, said the spokeswoman, can include using a dog to convey the message.
Carola Ruff, of a Berlin animal welfare group, said that any dog could be trained to do what its master wants.
"Raising a paw is what they're born to do," she told the Berliner Kurier.[/QUOTE]
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