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Germany, Pakistan, China; Putting the U.S. out of business

Thread ID: 10479 | Posts: 6 | Started: 2003-10-14

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heritagelost [OP]

2003-10-14 16:56 | User Profile

When countries like China and Pakistan want to improve a manufactured good to better compete with U.S. products they go to Germany for all the machinery. They don't even consider being machinery from America because they'd pay double for an inferior product.

The Made In Germany Label means

1 Large scale manufacturing machinery

1 Car Parts (Might as well say #1 in cars as well Volkswagons are dream cars)

1 Pharmaceticals

1 Knives/Kitchenware (seen any of the new Chinese cutlery imports they use machines from soligen Germany now.)

Virtually anything from Germany is in the top 2 and better than U.S., they are second in large scale printing after Belgium. Second in clothing after Italy.

I have a lot of knowledge about asian imports because of what I do for a living. Over the past few years I have seen a huge surge in the quality of Chinese Imports yet the wholesale prices have staid the same.

Remember, Japan used to be the cheif supplier of cheapo manufactured goods to the U.S. and evolved into major high quality car and appliance companies. China is now selling us what we used to either make ourselfs or buy from the Japanese. U.S. companies that moved to Mexico are now vacating Mexico for China (better workers, lower wages). Baja California has rows of abandoned factories that left for China (sorta like Cleveland, Ohio).

Just wait until the Chinese start making cars with German macherine for half the price of a Honda!

Extremists in Pakistan tell their followers that the best way to $%^& America is to keep improving the quality of their manufactured goods. They know that America's government works for big bussiness (some of the most exspensive clothes at Sears and Lazarus are from Pakistan), and big bussiness will let the whole of America die in order to make more money for them selves.

Let me give you some examples. Pakistan make premium quality leather products that are sold for $200-$300 in major department stores. Wholesale costs are $10-$20 an item, shipping is less than $1 an item when ordered in huge bulk. American factory workers go unemployed, department store workers make peanuts in dead end jobs, powerful Jewish families like Sears, Lazarus, Ralph Lipschitz "Lauren" make billions.

On a side note, the $50 leather pants made in Pakistan at a flea market are from the same manufactures as the $200 pair at Lazarus. They probably even took Lazarus' spec and tailored them exactly the same. Your not getting an inferior product, your just eliminating the middle man. Pakistan still has some garbage, but their leather goods and embroideries are equal to anyone. Pakistanis got hooked on bagpipes when they were being occupied by Highlander regiments from the British Army. They make premium quality bagpipes, so good in fact that many famous Scottish brands are now selling Pakistan made bagpipes at outrageous prices. (If you search the internet their are some store that eliminate the middle man and sell the Pakistan pipes for $200 with case, instruction book, practice cantor, and reeds.) If you buy the same thing through a Scottish "manufacturer" it'll cost you over $500.


jesuisfier

2003-10-14 17:11 | User Profile

Interesting Heritagelost. I agree. I know France just signed a huge contract with a German gun manufacturer. This is to give each French policeman a brand new semi-automatic service gun. Things are dire for American manufacturing. This corrupt government does nothing for the middle-class Whites but only to sell us out and make us slaves....or soldiers.


jesuisfier

2003-10-14 19:28 | User Profile

[B][SIZE=3]EU viewed by China as world power to rival US[/SIZE][/B]

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels (Filed: 14/10/2003)

               The European Union is the world's rising superpower,
               poised to overtake both America and Japan as the biggest
               trade and investment force in China, according to a
               strategic policy paper published by Beijing yesterday.

               The Chinese government said the EU was transforming
               the global landscape with its successful currency launch
               and strides towards a joint foreign policy, defence, and
               judicial union.

               Describing EU integration as "irreversible", Beijing
               marvelled at Europe's 25-35 per cent share of the global
               economy and its projected 450 million population after
               expanding into the former communist bloc next year.

               The white paper follows a flurry of Sino-EU ventures,
               including the Galileo global satellite system, described as
               a direct challenge to the American GPS monopoly in
               space.

               The two sides are also working together on nuclear
               research.

               France and Germany have been pushing hardest for
               closer ties with China, hoping to cash in on a lucrative
               market but also to develop a strategic alliance as a
               counterweight to American power after the diplomatic
               trauma of the Iraq war.

               Last June, the French defence minister, Michele
               Alliot-Marie, proposed sharing sensitive military
               technology with Beijing. She called for a softening of the
               arms embargo imposed on the country after the
               Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989.

               The Chinese already have the world's second biggest
               defence budget, £40 million annually, but they have to
               rely on outdated weaponry bought from Russia and
               Ukraine.

               Yesterday's white paper said the ever-closer military ties
               rendered the EU embargo a relic from the last century.

               China's efforts to court Brussels reflect a new mood of
               respect for the EU across Asia. India is also rushing to
               upgrade its ties with Europe, recruiting extra staff to lobby
               EU officials and MEPs.

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/14/weu14.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/10/14/ixworld.html[/url]


Walter Yannis

2003-10-15 11:37 | User Profile

I only buy Zollingen (spelling?) knives. They're the best. I like to give them for wedding presents - they're always a hit.

Have a full set myself.

German cars are the best - second to none in my opinion. The problem with Germany is demographics - there's only - what? - 80 million of the them and they're getting older by the day. If the Germans would start reproducing, then I'd say Germany - and along with them the rest of Europe - would have a clear shot at the top dog job for the next 100 years. That doesn't appear to be in the cards, unfortunately.

American manufacturing is in deep, deep trouble, no doubt. Hollowed out by insanely anti-American trade policies, and the workforce dumbed down to a dull brown lustre by massive 3rd world immigration. Put a fork in it, guys.

I agree that China is making a bid for Hegemon of the 21st Century. They have their problems, including enormous demographic imbalances as they aborted gazillions of their girls. Nuts, but there you have it. They still have 1.2 billion people, so the potential for development still remains unimaginably vast. The Chinese are competent technically, and their ambition is exceeded only by the ruthlessness of their rulers.

In short, learn Chinese, guys. It's the future.

Walter


jesuisfier

2003-10-15 13:09 | User Profile

[QUOTE]American manufacturing is in deep, deep trouble, no doubt. Hollowed out by insanely anti-American trade policies, and the workforce dumbed down to a dull brown lustre by massive 3rd world immigration. Put a fork in it, guys. [/QUOTE] Yes sir. The US is in its waning days as "superpower", whatever that word means anyway. They say "If it ain't broke, don't fix"......I'd say that if it is, in fact, broken, it must be fixed or you end up paying double in the future.

[QUOTE]In short, learn Chinese, guys. It's the future.[/QUOTE] I just told my boss I want to learn Chinese and I want the company to pay for it. These gooks are taking over everything in metals, machining, manufacturing, clothing, electronics.....[I]zut alors[/I]... There are gooks in outer space as we speak right now!


heritagelost

2003-10-15 22:51 | User Profile

I think you mean Solingen with an S. Solingen has pretty much been the world headquarters for knife making for at least the last 100 years. Maby even before that.

I wouldn't recommend giving a Chinese knife away as a present, that would be pretty tacky. Solingen knives would obviously make the best gifts. However, if you compare a recent Chinese knife import to one from just a few years ago, they've gone from non-functional trinkets to a pretty decent product.

When it comes to cars you just can't beat a Volkwagons for the value per dollar spent. Hell I still see old body Bugs cruising around all the time. When did they last make those for the American market? Like 25-30 years ago?

I had a Volkswagon Fox, and it was a dream car to work on. Everything was set up so it was easy to get at. To bad some fat disgusting Great American trailer trash with no insurance destroyed it.

[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]I only buy Zollingen (spelling?) knives. They're the best. I like to give them for wedding presents - they're always a hit.

Have a full set myself.

German cars are the best - second to none in my opinion. The problem with Germany is demographics - there's only - what? - 80 million of the them and they're getting older by the day. If the Germans would start reproducing, then I'd say Germany - and along with them the rest of Europe - would have a clear shot at the top dog job for the next 100 years. That doesn't appear to be in the cards, unfortunately.

American manufacturing is in deep, deep trouble, no doubt. Hollowed out by insanely anti-American trade policies, and the workforce dumbed down to a dull brown lustre by massive 3rd world immigration. Put a fork in it, guys.

I agree that China is making a bid for Hegemon of the 21st Century. They have their problems, including enormous demographic imbalances as they aborted gazillions of their girls. Nuts, but there you have it. They still have 1.2 billion people, so the potential for development still remains unimaginably vast. The Chinese are competent technically, and their ambition is exceeded only by the ruthlessness of their rulers.

In short, learn Chinese, guys. It's the future.

Walter[/QUOTE]