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Thread ID: 10430 | Posts: 19 | Started: 2003-10-11
2003-10-11 21:39 | User Profile
Wow, check out [url]http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=666[/url] I am surprised they have gotten away with this. I am not a fan of the NA though.
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2003-12-20 00:15 | User Profile
[IMG]http://www.nationalvanguard.org/images/news/billboard_fl2.jpg[/IMG]
2004-01-06 15:46 | User Profile
Here's another story on the billboard. It seems that a Jewish-owned newspaper is very upset with the NA's attempt to wake people up:
[url]http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1591[/url]
2004-01-07 03:52 | User Profile
Just saw Jared Taylor on Scarborough Country on MSN? (FOX?)
Was channel flippin' and saw Jared, stopped to watch.
A follow-on (but after a few other little stories, (and thus separated from Jared), was a report on that billboard, and they showed it very close, THREE TIMES!! Just to make SURE everyone got the URL! Tee hee hee! Nuthin' quite so wonderful as NATIONAL EXPOSURE!!!! Yahoo!
2004-01-07 04:25 | User Profile
That is AWESOME. I'm not a member of the NA or any other such groups, but they can play a constructive role in the political arena, and this precisely the sort of thing they should be doing. For every person who checks out that website -- even if only because of a moment's curiosity -- a new seed has been planted. Billboards and websites might not give rise to legions of new converts right off the bat, but they will at least cause the sleeping masses to stir in their slumber.
2004-01-31 18:06 | User Profile
The sign looks amateurish, like so much else the NA does. And no, it has nothing to do with lack of funds - it has to do with lack of propaganda skill and advertising talent. In short, the sign looks like a high school effort, probably because a high school punk with a skinhead tattoo designed it.
What amazes me is that so many on this board were "impressed".
God, but that's pathetic....
2004-01-31 19:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE=General Rommel]The sign looks amateurish, like so much else the NA does. And no, it has nothing to do with lack of funds - it has to do with lack of propaganda skill and advertising talent. In short, the sign looks like a high school effort, probably because a high school punk with a skinhead tattoo designed it.
What amazes me is that so many on this board were "impressed".
God, but that's pathetic....[/QUOTE]
Yeah.. let's put General Rommel in charge of pro-White propaganda efforts. That's the ticket...
2004-01-31 19:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=General Rommel]The sign looks amateurish, like so much else the NA does...What amazes me is that so many on this board were "impressed".[/QUOTE]
GR, please show us an example of your work where you have done it better. That way, the NA and others so inclined will have a 'go-by' to work from.
2004-01-31 20:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE]GR, please show us an example of your work where you have done it better. That way, the NA and others so inclined will have a 'go-by' to work from. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Yeah.. let's put General Rommel in charge of pro-White propaganda efforts. That's the ticket... [/QUOTE] Two classic examples of fallacious reasoning. Based upon such flawed reasoning, that means that neither one of you should EVER criticize George Bush on [u]anything[/u] he ever says or does - UNLESS you can show examples of how [u]you[/u] would do it better - which you can't.
That's because hypocrites can never live up to their own advice. If you did, you'd be forced to shut down this board and live in unspeaking silence for the rest of your lives.
That said, I will also add this: Yes, I could do MUCH better propaganda than that laughably pathetic attempt by the National Alliance. Believe me, I wish they had been able to make better use of that valuable billboard, but, being the incompetents that they are, they couldn't. So, if YOU are "impressed", that's fine.
I'm not.
2004-01-31 20:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=General Rommel]Two classic examples of fallacious reasoning. Based upon such flawed reasoning, that means that neither one of you should EVER criticize George Bush on [u]anything[/u] he ever says or does - UNLESS you can show examples of how [u]you[/u] would do it better - which you can't.[/QUOTE]
I understand your point, but the difference is one of dynamic and tone. The NA doesn't have resources at its disposal like the full force of the federal government or the multi-millions of dollars of the media networks and neo-con foundations. So while this nascent anti-ZOG movement is still very much a rag-tag, fly by the seat of your pants operation, I see no gain to be had in publicly condemning or harshly criticizing what some have accomplished, no matter how seemingly small or inconsequential. Lead by example, I say, but that's just my opinion. You are of course free to disagree.
2004-02-02 07:53 | User Profile
The billboard is fine. What can you do with just a billboard anyway?
I'm reminded of posters of the French Front National I saw when I used to live in France in the eighties. The posters read:
Vite! Votez Le Pen! [Quick! Vote Le Pen!]
The funny thing was that "Vite" was written in all kinds of foreign languages. The message was unmistakable.
Front National is the second biggest political formation in France.
[img]http://www.jeanmarielepen.info/photos/2/janybateau.jpg[/img]
[SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Red]"Yes, I do believe in the inequality of races!" Jean-Marie Le Pen, August 31st 1996. [/COLOR] [/B] [/SIZE]
Can you imagine a major US politician say the same thing?
2004-02-02 14:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I understand your point, but the difference is one of dynamic and tone. The NA doesn't have resources at its disposal like the full force of the federal government or the multi-millions of dollars of the media networks and neo-con foundations. So while this nascent anti-ZOG movement is still very much a rag-tag, fly by the seat of your pants operation, I see no gain to be had in publicly condemning or harshly criticizing what some have accomplished, no matter how seemingly small or inconsequential. Lead by example, I say, but that's just my opinion. You are of course free to disagree.[/QUOTE]
Looks like I was wrong about you, Tex. My apologies, Sir!
Where's Okie amidst this heresy?
2004-02-02 16:40 | User Profile
It's no secret that I'm not a huge fan of the NA, but I think any progress forward, no matter how small is all for the good.
2004-02-02 19:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ruffin]Looks like I was wrong about you, Tex. My apologies, Sir! [/QUOTE]
Wow, thanks Ruffin. You got me all misty-eyed.
Seriously, I think sometimes we can get a little too caught up in our own rhetoric here on this rather impersonal medium of the internet discussion board. I think the folks here that I've had personal contact with will tell you that I'm pretty much an easy-going, simple kind of guy. My overriding principle is if you don't show yourself to be an avowed enemy and can at the very least tolerate the beliefs I hold dear, then I'll return the favor and won't ever hesitate to defend friends. Because of the unfortunate situation with Linder and certain elements at VNN vociferously attacking Christianity, I think some may have misconstrued my feelings toward white nationalist groups as a whole and this just isn't the case. I make a distinction between VNN and Stormfront/Black/NA with the latter having been fairly friendly towards OD. Because of that I see no need to disparage the work they have done and their accomplishments. In turn, I am encouraged by some members here that are members of the NA and show a willingness to look at expanding their movement to form a larger coalition of groups currently fighting the same enemy. As I stated elsewhere, we have got to progress past the finger-pointing and blame game.
[QUOTE]Where's Okie amidst this heresy?[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, I think he's over running interference for golfball and the Klan.
2004-02-02 21:15 | User Profile
Tex, just don't appont Walter your ideology minister and everything is going to be alright. While small in numbers, what we have at OD seems to be a workable model for collaboration and respect among whites with differences in their religious, educational and ethnic background.
2004-02-03 03:22 | User Profile
The latest from Linder on the Super Bowl "surprise" and some interesting comments on Christianity.
Ed. Note: The tit rip was an example of something jews do just because they can. To rub your face in it, impotent white man. Readers should not take my criticism of Christianity wrong: I would FAR rather live under an extremely strict theocracy than a secuarlized, smutty, innuendo-laden jew-produced pornocracy such as we have today.
2004-02-03 03:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=General Rommel]The sign looks amateurish.[/QUOTE]
The sign no doubt was created by amatures. But, I think it does its job very well. Easy to read, hard to miss. My first thought was that they could have at least done away with the $ and k, but on second thought that gets across a message to people who don't go to the website.
BTW, every time I criticize Bush, I can give examples of how I would do it better. Still, you say you can do better. If you were doing it for them, how would you do it?
2004-02-03 05:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=martel]...I would FAR rather live under an extremely strict theocracy than a secuarlized, smutty, innuendo-laden jew-produced pornocracy such as we have today.[/QUOTE]
Some of us who had strict upbringings along pre-Vatican II Roman Catholic lines agree with this 100%. There was far more freedom and fair play in that world than I see anywhere right now. "Extremely strict" was part of their problem, alas. They were too busy with that to see what was sneaking up on them...
We're better with any blood & soil dictatorship than alien rule. :cheers:
2004-02-05 00:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=General Rommel]The sign looks amateurish, like so much else the NA does. And no, it has nothing to do with lack of funds - it has to do with lack of propaganda skill and advertising talent. In short, the sign looks like a high school effort, probably because a high school punk with a skinhead tattoo designed it.
What amazes me is that so many on this board were "impressed".
God, but that's pathetic....[/QUOTE]
The purpose of the sign was to simply prompt people to visit a website. Nothing more. If it had contained imagery or additional text, it would not have been as effective because it would have taken the focus of the URL. The "rule$ Amerika" part was designed to pique the viewers' curiosity.
Of course, you know all this already...you are just using this thread as an excuse to gripe about the National Alliance. Thankfully, you and the people who hold a vendetta against the NA have been confined to bitching (ex-girlfriend style) on the Web.
When the organization that you belong to (WR?) puts up their own billboard sign on a major highway, please check back here so we can decide whether it's "amateur" or not.