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heritagelost [OP]

2003-10-08 16:18 | User Profile

America is the laughing stock of the western world, because so many Americans are fat slobs. There is not a single European country whose obesity level is even close to America.

Europeans think of us as fat slobs in sweatpants driving rediculously large vehicles to match our fat asses.

Do not be a part of this sick culture. If you want to be respected as a political activist and have people listen to you, you need to be physically fit and well dressed. I'm tired of this "oh I can't help it I'm fat" mentality. I once met a menonite girl with eight kids who had a body like britney spears. She wasn't born with that she works hard for. Seeing her made me want to join the menonite church.

If you've read the saga you know that our Aryan ancestors worshipped beauty. In both Norse and Keltic cultures it was a requirement that rulers be physically attractive and had would have to step down if they were maimed.

also

People who can't follow the law need to be kicked to the curb so they don't get others in trouble. I've seen it happen many times.


Centinel

2003-10-08 17:17 | User Profile

I once met a menonite girl with eight kids who had a body like britney spears.

Spears' body prior to cosmetic surgery wouldn't be that phenomenal.


jesuisfier

2003-10-08 17:39 | User Profile

[QUOTE=heritagelost]Europeans think of us as fat slobs in sweatpants driving rediculously large vehicles to match our fat asses. [/QUOTE]

Quite true, Heritagelost. Everyday the masses of asses plod along in their stupid SUV's only to get out and walk around a hideous, cookie-cutter mall and feed their fat faces. Sitcom disciples they be, a worthwhile thought or idea is not within them. They are the Damned.


Texas Dissident

2003-10-08 17:42 | User Profile

This is basically salesmanship 101.

If you pay a visit to a prospect, you shouldn't show up with your shirt tail hanging out and stains on your clothing. I don't think you can establish any type of weight requirement for individuals, but one should always present themselves as neat and professional as is possible if you want to achieve success in any type of proselytizing or sales effort. No matter how much some may try to bemoan it, the bottom line is that people are attracted by looks and simply being attractive can get you in doors not accessible otherwise. Serious organizations heed this and do their best to utilize their resources where they can get the most bang for their buck.


Texas Dissident

2003-10-08 17:45 | User Profile

[QUOTE=jesuisfier]Quite true, Heritagelost. Everyday the masses of asses plod along in their stupid SUV's only to get out and walk around a hideous, cookie-cutter mall and feed their fat faces. Sitcom disciples they be, a worthwhile thought or idea is not within them. They are the Damned.[/QUOTE]

Damned they may well be, but they're 'our' damned and as such worthy of every effort to see that truth reaches their ears. We shouldn't lose sight of that.


Ragnar

2003-10-08 18:11 | User Profile

This is the oddest explanation for American obesity ever written. Included in the discussion for the very good reason that, till now, [B]NOBODY[/B] has considered the possibility that America's national security state might bear some responsibility for the obesity epidemic. There's no substitute for self-discipline; but the current epidemic begs some harder thinking.

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Could radioactive iodine from nuclear tests and power plants be the reason so many North Americans are overweight? The evidence is surprising.

Is America's nuclear policy making you fat? This is a deadly serious question. Nuclear materials emit radioactive iodine, which has been linked with thyroid damage. Thyroid disorders, recently discovered to occur twice as frequently as previously believed, are linked with weight gain. Therefore, this question: is U.S. nuclear policy adding inches to our waistlines?

Let's start with your thyroid. According to the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE), "Thyroid hormones play a vital role in the overall body function. Although relatively small, the thyroid gland produces a hormone that regulates the body's overall metabolism - the rate at which the body produces energy from nutrients. It influences the heart, brain, liver, kidneys and skin and affects muscle strength, reproductive functions and appetite."

I'll repeat those key points: the thyroid regulates both metabolism and appetite - two factors out of kilter in most overweight people.

In January 2003, AACE revised longstanding guidelines for diagnosing underactive thyroids, and now estimates that, "Thyroid disease affects 1 in 10 Americans (more than diabetes and cancer combined), yet half of those affected remain undiagnosed."

Radioactive iodine is the first and fastest-traveling element released in any nuclear "event" (whether an explosion or a leak), as the U.S. government tacitly acknowledged when it encouraged cities to stockpile potassium iodide pills against the possibility that terrorists might target one of the 103 nuclear power plants in the U.S.

Here is how Dr. Rosalie Bertell explained the connection between nukes and thyroids: "...Radioactive iodine is routinely released in small quantities by nuclear power plants and in large quantities by nuclear reprocessing plants. It is not part of the natural human environment...If radioactive iodine (I 131 or I 129) is ingested with food it will enter the blood and tend to accumulate in the thyroid....

"...A mild exposure experienced by a large population could cause a decrease in average thyroid hormone levels and an increase in average body weight, such as is occurring now in the North American population....The connection between this pollution and the overweight problem has, unfortunately, never been seriously researched."

Dieters around the world are yelling, "Well, why not?"

Nukes and health issues

Although there is much reliable research on the effects of radioactive contamination, most of it inexplicably overlooks the relationship to weight gain. Bertell's work tends to focus on leukemia and other cancers. Dr Helen Caldicott says that her latest book, The New Nuclear Danger, exposes the connection between nukes and "an epidemic of cancers, leukemias and congenital diseases." The European Committee on Radiation Risk reported in January 2003, that nuclear weapons tests and power plant accidents before 1989 were responsible for up to 65 million deaths worldwide. Again, the ECRR focused on the same old cancers, leukemia and birth defects. Nothing about getting fat.

Okay, we all know that plutonium is screamingly toxic. Inhale a thousandth of a gram and it will kill you fast, and probably all the people around you too. The U.K. Royal Society added a new wrinkle with its March 2002 report that soldiers who encounter depleted uranium shells on the battlefield (in Iraq, Afghanistan or Kosovo) could have their kidneys shut down "within days." So? Dead is dead. If you're dead, you don't have to worry about staying on your diet.

The thing is, you can never diet away radiation exposure. A February 2003 report in the New Scientist magazine indicated that every single cell in our bodies contains a "human geiger counter," recording radiation traces that last our entire lifetimes. We might not even know when we've been exposed, but our cells remember.

If your thyroid is out of whack, even dieting twice as hard might not work. Anyone who has ever tried to maintain a household, a career and a social life on 1200 calories a day will recognize that this is a really, really serious issue. It's bad enough that the Bush administration is making countries around the world mad at the U.S. by withdrawing from international treaties and going into Iraq all alone. But do they have to sabotage everybody's weight loss plans too?

Who's been exposed?

You may wonder if all North Americans have really been exposed to radiation. The Center for Disease Control says yes, in a report released in February 2003. "Any person living in the contiguous U.S. since 1951 has been and continues to be exposed to the remnants of fallout from nuclear testing."

With a narrow mandate to study the health effects of 1950s atmospheric weapons tests, the CDC does not refer to nuclear power plants at all in this project. But a map from Women for Peace shows 1767 nuclear contaminated or potentially contaminated sites distributed all across the U.S. including nuclear power plants, weapons factories, missile silos and nuclear waste dumps.

In addition to the existing contamination, invading armies have strewn depleted uranium shells all over Iraq, Afghanistan and the former Yugoslavia. The U.S. Congress has just approved $200 million for a new generation of nuclear weapons. U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney has talked about building 410 new nuclear power plants. Even if we don't blow ourselves up, we're going to be up to our oversize butts in radioactive dust.

What, is the U.S. government funded by shares in Weight Watchers?

Dieters of the world, unite! Contact your legislators right away, and demand an investigation into the relationship between nuclear pollution and those stubborn extra pounds. You have nothing to lose but your extra weight!

*Penney Kome is an author and journalist and is currently Chair of The Writers Union of Canada. *


Centinel

2003-10-08 18:16 | User Profile

There is not a single European country whose obesity level is even close to America.

Isn't it true that the UK has an obesity epidemic as well?


heritagelost

2003-10-08 18:40 | User Profile

Many Governments of European countries have discussed "Obesity Epidemics" and how to combat it on a government level.

However, they are talking about obesity rates that are a fraction of the rates in the U.S.

The Irish parliment recently discussed obesity and what the government can do. They considered it a serious problem. However, there obesity rate is less than half of what the U.S. is.

In Asian countries, obesity has started with the introduction of fast food and several Asian governments are taking immediate direct action.

In Thailand, the public schools are required to put fat kids in special exercise programs and the leader of Thailand has gone on tv and publicly called for Thais to reject America's fast food culture and to eat healthy.

Big difference from America, where congress passes laws requiring public school to teach children ficticious health benefits from drinking milk because the milk lobby gives them money. American dairy is so poisonous that it is illegal to sell in Europe. America has the highest consumption of milk in the world and the worlds' highest rate of degenerative bone diseases.

[QUOTE=Centinel]Isn't it true that the UK has an obesity epidemic as well?[/QUOTE]


Rumblestrip

2003-10-09 09:35 | User Profile

Eat less. Move more. Watch the pounds melt away. Amazing, itz!


heritagelost

2003-10-09 13:18 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Rumblestrip]Eat less. Move more. Watch the pounds melt away. Amazing, itz![/QUOTE]

I've gone from a 34 waist to a 31 waist, simply by eating better. The biggest weight loss came from ditching cola. I've been progressively getting stricter and stricter in my diet (however I still eat large quantities) and I'm on my way to a 30 waist and six pack abs.


Edana

2003-10-12 05:06 | User Profile

Take sugar out of the American diet and a lot would trim down with little excercise. Even if an American isn't eating much, there's a big chance that his grocery store food is packed with sugary additives even where they're least expected.


Paragon

2003-10-12 07:25 | User Profile

Shiieeet homey, I like dem fat asses.


PENN

2003-10-12 08:14 | User Profile

This thread brings back memories:


9/30/2003

Alex, 'Canny' Sammy strikes (out) again!

[url]http://www.vdare.com/francis/political_class.htm[/url]

Sincerely, Jay

[COLOR=Blue][I]Ed. Note: That fat fu*k gets uselesser daily. Itz clear I need to open a special combo fat-farm/writer's workshop especially for fat and canny sammy. I will wake him up with a bullhorn at 6am, and we will practice our not-eating skills for three hours. Then a quick mile at the track, where I will follow him in a pickup, revving when his unfed tongue lolls. After a quick hosing, elephant-style, I will superintend his construction of an essay on an issue of the day, and crack him across his unclogged noggin when his pen quitz the straight and narrow for Semitically Correct curlicues. In a few short weeks Canny will be leaner and appreciably meaner; possibly even fit for public consumption.[/I][/COLOR]



Acorn

2003-10-12 10:15 | User Profile

There are reasons Americans are fat:

(1) The USA is the most Jew-dominated country in the Western world with only England coming close, with Whites becoming 3rd-class citizens, being displaced from their almost-ancestral neighborhoods, jobs, occupations, etc. In times of fear and uncertainty, the instinctive urge is to EAT and to store up for lean times. Think there's no genuine hunger among Whites under the "New World Order"? Pull your head out of the sand. The US population has the same psychological profile as a population in wartime conditions because ..... it is.

(2) Jewfood: No, I don't mean Kosher food although there is some overlap, what I mean by jewfood is corporate-food, food that's full of trans-fatty-acids, loaded with carbohydrates, and basically manufactured with profit first and formost rather than a healthy balance between a reasonable profit and feeding one's Folk. The Atkins diet is partially utter truth and partially salesmanship, you can follow the low carbohydrate diet we evolved on without touching a single Atkins-labeled product, and it's easy. Just NO more soda, churchez la Juif instead and pop a Perrier. Eat lots of meat and veggies and watch your attitude rise as your cholesterol falls. But most Americans are not clued-in to this, and instead eat Entemann's Cardboard Profitable Quasi-Donuts and low fat (but high carb) everything, and can't understand why they're getting fatter and fatter. Think about WHO profits by this. And I'm not even getting into how the plant-derived sterols etc are probably the cause for the decline in White sperm counts and this White birthrate.

This war will be fought with the bullet and the bayonet, but also in a smaller but as important way, with the fork.


Robbie

2003-10-12 14:18 | User Profile

I have always been a big eater, but I burn it off, and retain my everyday weight. Perhaps a lot of that is due to not eating a lot of sweets. I'm not much of a candy eater (a few here and there), don't drink milk regularly (a chocolate milk every now-and-then), and most of the cookies I eat I bake myself (chances are the amount of sugar you put in your homemade cookies is considerably much less than the ones you buy in the supermarket).


Walter Yannis

2003-10-12 14:47 | User Profile

I weighed nearly 300 pounds two years ago - I'm down to a respectable 240 now - still chubby for my 6' 1" frame, but I look okay in a suit.

I should add that several health problems have almost disappeared, including my chronic asthma, irritable bowel, plugged eustachian tubes, high blood pressure, alarmingly high cholesterol, cold sores, constant colds, to name but a few.

I'm 1000% better off because of my diet.

I owe it all to a book called "Neanderthin." It's a simple idea, really: we should eat a "natural" diet, defined as whatever our caveman ancestors ate, before the advent of agriculture that appeared an evolutionarily insignifanct 10,000 years ago. We cavemen eschew all agricultural products, because we are convinced that our immune systems have simply not evolved to recognize some of the proteins contained in them, causing us contant allergic reactions that manifest themselves in heart disease, obesity, diabetes, asthma, and so forth. Look at my list of health ills, and I think you don't need to be a graduate of Johns Hopkins School of Medicine to see that I had some terrible food allergy that was killing me.

Duh! What took me so bloody long to figure it out?

Anyway, I recommend that anyone with these problems give it a try. Tne rule of thumb is that you can eat anything that can be eaten raw, without cooking or any kind of processing.

I eat meat (all kinds), fish (all kinds), vegetables (except potatoes and beans), nuts (lots of nuts, except cashews which can't be eaten raw), berries, and fruits (but take it easy on our bred-up friuts with their unnaturally high sugar content if you want to lose weight). I run heavy to the meat. Lots and lots of meat. I'm a pork man.

I do NOT eat dairy (no kind at all, I think that this was the source of my allergies), grains (I find now that some grains make me sneeze), potatoes (this American plant was introduced into our diets a mere 500 years ago), beans (can't eat them raw), sugar, alcohol (not even a glass of wine, sorry lads; also, no beer, which is just liquid bread).

You get the picture. I suggest reading the book by Ray Audette, who cured his own arthritis and diabetes with the diet. I cured my asthma, and now I can work out vigourously again.

The big problem with the American diet is the presence of all sorts of processed ingredients that our bodies can't recognize. Cut that stuff out. Eat like a caveman. You'll be glad you did.

Walter


Acorn

2003-10-12 19:57 | User Profile

Yannis you hit it right on the head. Nuts instead of doughnuts, fish instead of mac'n'cheese, etc. Heck even a few small changes, stopping paying the Jew for those bagels etc that appear to be "required eating" in the US, cutting out the Coke, whether you got that special Kosher Coke (yes there is such a thing) or just the regular kind, etc. Whites have had beer and wine for millenia, invented them in fact along with everything else, but in moderation not a 6-pack a day. Americans are on a HORRIBLE diet because it's profitable and one can only guess WHO it's profitable to. IF you look back historically, for instance, the traditional English dinner was "meat and two veg" not "cassarole with bits of meat in it, 1 veg heaped with artificial cheeselike sauce, potatoes out of the box with gravy out of the can, and a half liter of soda.

Between the lousy diet forced on our people and the pressure we're under (extremely high unemployment, displacement, threat of extinction that I think most of us can feel if not articulate) it's amazing we don't all weigh 300 lbs.

And even some of this is brainwashing by the joos, how often do you see a slim, clever, witty Jew on the televitz? OK we all know the right answer, about every 5 minutes. How often do we see a fat, ugly greasy Jewish slob? They're just as common but you never see 'em on TV. Look around your neighborhood, besides all those fat, ugly Whites we're trained to look for, I'm sure you'll see lots of Whites in good shape and a credit to our Race.


Walter E Kurtz

2003-10-12 21:17 | User Profile

Americans are all about convenience...they consume absurd amounts of fast food because it is the quickest, most efficient way to assimilate calories.

I started eating clean when I was about 18 and I got into bodybuilding. These days I live on free range chicken breasts, ground turkey, Tuna, sweet potatoes, green vegetables, and lean steak about once or twice a week. From about 8:30 AM until 6:30 PM I eat every two hours. This seems to be the winning formula for me.

Part of the problem is misinformation..."fad diets" and other garbage that is marketed to people en masse. Stick to basics in diet and training and you will get profound results.


Bardamu

2003-10-12 21:38 | User Profile

[QUOTE=heritagelost]America is the laughing stock of the western world, because so many Americans are fat slobs. There is not a single European country whose obesity level is even close to America.

[/QUOTE]

I thought Germany has a fat-slob epidemic as well?


Ragnar

2003-10-13 01:26 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]...I also, no beer, which is just liquid bread...[/QUOTE]

That's throwing out the baby with the bathwater!

Beer won't kill you. It's good for your arteries and cholesterol. Don't overdo it, that's all.

Eating is not a problem if you've got good exercise habits. I'm nearing my mid-50s and I can still do 60-80 miles on my bike per week because I enjoy it. Maintaining whatever weight you like is easy if you can burn it off and stay reasonably buff. I don't know what high blood pressure even looks like.

Having a wife that likes to cook is a real plus too, if she's into traditional European food. My wife is Polish and does all the beef-and-dumpling stuff that you'd swear would add a ton per day to anyone eating it, but it don't. A proper diet won't do that.

And: The government-corporate complex does have a bias toward an obese society, their actions prove it. In 1950, Truman called the troops up for Korea and the men were given very detailed physicals. It was discovered that young men of 18-19 years old already had signs of clogged arteries. It was processed food showing up in their diets, crap like margarine that was introduced mostly during the depression.

So they knew over 50 years ago they were on the wrong track. And they kept going the same way.

All that "newly discovered" research about transfatty acids, for instance -- Hitler's Germany knew it was as bad as rat poison by 1935. American business knew too. They sold it anyway because it was good for business.

Where this issue is concerned -- trust no one.


Walter Yannis

2003-10-13 06:08 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Bardamu]I thought Germany has a fat-slob epidemic as well?[/QUOTE]

The Germans are very fat, too. I don't think that they're as fat overall as Americans, though. They do have a huge problem, no doubt.

I remember being on a short commuter flight on one of those really small planes in Eastern Europe somewhere, and these ENORMOUS German business men were trying to fit into the seats. These guys were as big as Hulmut Kohl but about twice as fat - just monsters. After much fussing with the hostess they finally settled uncomfortably on aisle seats, with one cheek of their mighty a$$es on the seat and their tree trunk legs blocking the aisle. Poor guys. Hell, I'm a big dude and really suffer in little airplanes, but these guys were like sardines in a can.

Anyway, Acorn and Ragnar have it right. There's both a convenience element to bad eating (we're too busy to take time to cook) and there's a major profit motive element as well. I don't know if we can blame this one on the Tribe, though. The bogus "food pyramid" that was foisted upon us since childhood was clearly done at the behest of gentile dairy farmers and others.

Ray Audette writes about diseases in our pet animals. Cancer and other diseases are EPIDEMIC among dogs and cats in the States, and this has everything to do with feeding them an unnatural diet consisting of meat-flavoured grains. It sends their immune systems buggy, because they can't recognize grain proteins. Dogs and cats are carnivores, and if you feed them grain, well, what can you expect?

It's the same with us. There's no question about the type of diet we evolved eating. We know this because we have the fossilized excrement of cavemen. I read recently about a Cro Magnon settlement. They analyzed their fossilized poop, and it turns out that they ate fish nearly every day, caught from nearby streams. They ate animal meat regularly. They ate nuts of all kinds, seeds of all kinds. Wild fruits. You get the picture.

Eat NATURALLY, I say. That means eating what we were evolved to eat. This means that for us, there's nothing quite so UNNATURAL as tofu and granola. Eating a vegan diet is utterly UNNATURAL. It's bad bad bad for us.

Now, I can't claim perfect adherence to my diet. I drink coffee (I'm seriously addicted). I eat way too much fruit. I'm exercising regularly (I swim 4 plus hours per week) but it's really not enough (should be about twice that - same principle applies to exercise as to diet. We look at how much our caveman ancestors exercised, and it turns out it was about 4 hours per day of trekking, running, hunting, etc.) All I can say is that cutting out the processed crap, especially sugar, dairy products, and grains, SAVED MY LIFE, and I can only urge others who suffer from obesity, asthma, arthritis, and other immune system diseases to take a good look at their diets, and try to eat naturally.

That means FISH AND MEAT, and NO dairy and grains.

End of rant!!!!

Walter


Avalanche

2003-10-13 13:12 | User Profile

Walter,

That was not a rant, it was a caring plea for our brethren and sistren to start taking better care fo themselves. I'm doing Atkins myself (down 56 lbs in a year!! YAY!) but not doing it diligently ( :blush: ). You've inspired me to become more diligent -- so feel good that you are providing good info that our people need!

It's AMAZING how much difference the change in diet makes -- I quit eating all those bad carbs (and OH how I miss pasta! :crybaby: ) and my brain got clearer and less fuzzy and I am less tired (despite keeping bad hours all-too-often!) and... well, not the right place for a testiment to Atkins and eating right! But as NeoNietzsche often says:

MEAT is the difference between man and monkey!


heritagelost

2003-10-13 15:23 | User Profile

A good beer like Guiness or a dark German beer has lots of vitamins and proteins which causes your body to burn up the carbohydrates. Unlike cola, which is pure refined carbohydrates and your body simply converts them to straight to fatty acids which is deposited in fat cells. Alcohol is a usefull cleanser in small quantities.

Currently I only drink water and one good beer a day.

The other day, I put a dollar in a water bottle machine and it ripped me off. I was so thirsty that I stuck another dollar in the coke machine and selected what appeared to be orange juice thinking it was better than coke. When it came out I read the label. 130 calories x 2.5 servings = 325 = enough simple carbohydrates to add a 1/10 pound of fat.

I threw the bottle in the trash. It wasn't work it.

Remember, your body only needs 13 calories per pound of lean mass. So your (weight - weight * %body fat) * 13. This is going to be under 1,800 for most men and under 1,300 for most women.

Think about this. Each time you hit McDonalds you gett 570 for a big mac, 300+ for a large coke, 560 for a large fry.

Your getting a full, or nearly full day supply of calories from one big mac combo. Combined with the fact that your not getting much nutrition, so your body is turning it all into fat.

The North American lard ass is eating one or two meals like this a day.

[QUOTE=Ragnar]That's throwing out the baby with the bathwater!

Beer won't kill you. It's good for your arteries and cholesterol. Don't overdo it, that's all.

Eating is not a problem if you've got good exercise habits. I'm nearing my mid-50s and I can still do 60-80 miles on my bike per week because I enjoy it. Maintaining whatever weight you like is easy if you can burn it off and stay reasonably buff. I don't know what high blood pressure even looks like.

Having a wife that likes to cook is a real plus too, if she's into traditional European food. My wife is Polish and does all the beef-and-dumpling stuff that you'd swear would add a ton per day to anyone eating it, but it don't. A proper diet won't do that.

And: The government-corporate complex does have a bias toward an obese society, their actions prove it. In 1950, Truman called the troops up for Korea and the men were given very detailed physicals. It was discovered that young men of 18-19 years old already had signs of clogged arteries. It was processed food showing up in their diets, crap like margarine that was introduced mostly during the depression.

So they knew over 50 years ago they were on the wrong track. And they kept going the same way.

All that "newly discovered" research about transfatty acids, for instance -- Hitler's Germany knew it was as bad as rat poison by 1935. American business knew too. They sold it anyway because it was good for business.

Where this issue is concerned -- trust no one.[/QUOTE]


Ausonius

2003-10-13 15:56 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ragnar]This is the oddest explanation for American obesity ever written. Included in the discussion for the very good reason that, till now, [B]NOBODY[/B] has considered the possibility that America's national security state might bear some responsibility for the obesity epidemic. There's no substitute for self-discipline; but the current epidemic begs some harder thinking.

[url]http://www.rabble.ca/everyones_a_critic.shtml?sh_i[/url] tm=78637ad78dea8efaf26c8a3ea30c6868&r=1

Could radioactive iodine from nuclear tests and power plants be the reason so many North Americans are overweight? The evidence is surprising.

Is America's nuclear policy making you fat? This is a deadly serious question. Nuclear materials emit radioactive iodine, which has been linked with thyroid damage. Thyroid disorders, recently discovered to occur twice as frequently as previously believed, are linked with weight gain. Therefore, this question: is U.S. nuclear policy adding inches to our waistlines?

Let's start with your thyroid. According to the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE), "Thyroid hormones play a vital role in the overall body function. Although relatively small, the thyroid gland produces a hormone that regulates the body's overall metabolism - the rate at which the body produces energy from nutrients. It influences the heart, brain, liver, kidneys and skin and affects muscle strength, reproductive functions and appetite."

I'll repeat those key points: the thyroid regulates both metabolism and appetite - two factors out of kilter in most overweight people.

In January 2003, AACE revised longstanding guidelines for diagnosing underactive thyroids, and now estimates that, "Thyroid disease affects 1 in 10 Americans (more than diabetes and cancer combined), yet half of those affected remain undiagnosed."

Radioactive iodine is the first and fastest-traveling element released in any nuclear "event" (whether an explosion or a leak), as the U.S. government tacitly acknowledged when it encouraged cities to stockpile potassium iodide pills against the possibility that terrorists might target one of the 103 nuclear power plants in the U.S.

Here is how Dr. Rosalie Bertell explained the connection between nukes and thyroids: "...Radioactive iodine is routinely released in small quantities by nuclear power plants and in large quantities by nuclear reprocessing plants. It is not part of the natural human environment...If radioactive iodine (I 131 or I 129) is ingested with food it will enter the blood and tend to accumulate in the thyroid....

"...A mild exposure experienced by a large population could cause a decrease in average thyroid hormone levels and an increase in average body weight, such as is occurring now in the North American population....The connection between this pollution and the overweight problem has, unfortunately, never been seriously researched."

Dieters around the world are yelling, "Well, why not?"

[/QUOTE]

I had Grave's Disease. Your thyroid declares independance and tries to kill you via overloading your system, causing your heart rate to increase to dangerous levels, loss of sleep, loss of weight, night sweats, loss of emotional control, and eventually culminating in your heart burning out and you assuming room temperature.

I got nuked with radioactive Iodine 131. I now officially have no thyroid gland. I have to take meds (levothyroxine or synthroid) every day for the rest of my life. I have to go to get blood labs done every 6 months to make sure I'm on the right dosage. I gained some weight after I got nuked (went from 204 and 12% body fat to 240.. what my body fat percentage is now is anyone's guess), but I still wear 36/34's Levi's (yeah, okay 550's, but I try to tell myself I'm not a fatassed deep-fried Snicker's bar-eating blob). I don't eat candy. I don't drink beer anymore. I don't eat hardly any fried foods. Or pizza. It sucks. I LIKE high-fat food, and good beer...

But the alternative is worse. To be viewed as some typical lazy giant-assed Ami who won't get off his butt and do anything. My wife, son, and I go for walks regularly. I keep an active lifestyle, as much as I can, given my limitations. Anyone who is a giant fat-assed blob and has a healthy system is not worthy of respect. They have no will to do what they need to to stay reasonably healthy.

Ausonius


Edana

2003-10-13 16:14 | User Profile

Ouch, that's horrible.

Have you tried taking all refined sugar (it's in more than candy) and starch out of your diet, Ausonius?


Ausonius

2003-10-13 17:10 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Edana]Ouch, that's horrible.

Have you tried taking all refined sugar (it's in more than candy) and starch out of your diet, Ausonius?[/QUOTE]

I wasn't fishing for sympathy, but it is appreciated nonetheless. My wife thought I was losing my mind, my emotional swings were so rapid and extreme. My commanding officer as well... it was even batted around that I would be relieved of my sidearm, and duty, and regulated to a desk and forced to undergo psychological examinations before I was diagnosed. Needless to say, removing the thyroid caused a marked change in my personality.

Yes, I have removed most refined sugars from my diet. Except for coffee. I have to have sugar in my coffee. And the coffee HAS to be caffinated. That fakey almost-sugar is nasty (yes, it DOES taste different.. anyone who says otherwise is just telling tales).

Starches are another matter. My wife is ethnic German. Swabian to be exact. The majority of their traditional diet has included, but is not limited to: Lots of potatos, späetzle (thick noodles), beans, semmel knödel (sort of a doughy potato-ball boiled in salt water.. don't knock it, it's good with Rolladen, red cabbage and gravy) and other starchy foods. They are a hardworking group, largely tied to the land, farmers and the like... a hardy people, thrifty, but not affluent. Their diet consists of what is mostly available. Not much unprocessed meat, but I'm trying to change that (Germans are very fond of their [I]würst[/I], and trying to get her to stop buying it is like trying to stop the tide from coming in). Supplementing our diet with venison is going to be a real treat this year (under a month and counting until deer season opens!! :) ).

It's just my body trying to figure out what weight it wants. Excercise helps, but it's effect is diminished due to the lack of a thyroid gland. I do it mostly to keep my muscles from atrophying.

Ausonius


Walter Yannis

2003-10-13 18:16 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Avalanche]Walter,

That was not a rant, it was a caring plea for our brethren and sistren to start taking better care fo themselves. I'm doing Atkins myself (down 56 lbs in a year!! YAY!) but not doing it diligently ( :blush: ). You've inspired me to become more diligent -- so feel good that you are providing good info that our people need!

It's AMAZING how much difference the change in diet makes -- I quit eating all those bad carbs (and OH how I miss pasta! :crybaby: ) and my brain got clearer and less fuzzy and I am less tired (despite keeping bad hours all-too-often!) and... well, not the right place for a testiment to Atkins and eating right! But as NeoNietzsche often says:

MEAT is the difference between man and monkey![/QUOTE]

Hey, Avalanche!

Long time no see.

I need to take it more seriously, too. Cut out the coffee and diet Cokes. Start lifting weights. Get in shape! :boxing:

Walter


Sisyfos

2003-10-13 19:06 | User Profile

No question in my mind that he Neanderthal, or the Paleo :) diet as it is sometimes called, is the preferred prescription, or ought to be. However, people respond differently to different things so there are probably countless methods that, if properly adhered to, would yield the same result. The common denominator for all of these is limiting your caloric intake. Our people consume too many carbohydrates -- precisely the element that the Caveman diet diminishes drastically in favour of more protein and greens. But no amount of food manipulation will work to decrease weight if the total calories consumed exceed bodily requirements. Likewise, you can indulge in dietary vices galore with no perceptible impact on weight (long-term health is another matter) so long as the total calories are limited.

I am a sugar addict who prefers to take his poison in chocolate form. At times these reach obscene levels, but I retain the same lanky/mesomorphic shadow I had in high school. Largely because my appetite has never been high and so it is easy to respect the above principle. Also, my struggle has been easier of late on account of my increasingly more refined appetite. Never a lover of the standard North American oil-based ersatz concoctions, I have dispensed with them completely for European imports, preferably Swiss or German. Alas, or not, since who cares what means aid the cause, my saving grace may not be willpower but simple absence of omnipresence combined with excessive cost.

One thing concerning the different obesity levels across the pond that is seldom mentioned may be time of feasting. In North America we short-change lunch and overdo it come dinnertime. In Europe the midday meal is the most important and supper is a lighter fair, corresponding to decreasing metabolic activity that is nearing its lowest point as prelude to rest. Whatever the reason, it is a fact that whenever any of my acquaintances visit the old country or her neighbours, more often than not they report loosing a few pounds upon their return and this despite excessive indulgences. My experiences mirror theirs, and I have already telegraphed the locales I frequent.

Like most here, if forced to select the one factor most responsible for the difference I would finger greater consumption of processed, inferior foods. This, I think, is the curse of it and more so because our nutrient-starved bodies demand that we consume even more to make up for the nutrients that ought to be present but increasingly are not because what we eat is really not food. Witness the near perfect correlation between rising instances of obesity and Mickey D setting up shop in the neighbourhood, as seen in parts of Japan.

Sometimes it helps to have things spelled out and to become better acquainted with the consequences of one’s folly. Here is a decent site that may prove motivational against a variety of vices: [URL=http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.html?content=/articles/index.html]thedoctorwithin[/URL]


madrussian

2003-10-13 19:46 | User Profile

Sisyfos,

same sentiment about American vs. European chocolate. Amazingly, even European companies like Nestle, sell crap in the US market (and somewhat better fare in Canada). I am puzzled at this. Do they know that Americans prefer crap, or do they go with the flow and provide traditional sugary brown caramel otherwise known as chocolate in the US?

But, there IS good American chocolate. And will cost you just as much, if not more, as its European counterpart. I was pleasantly suprised how good See's candies are.


Smedley Butler

2003-10-14 09:00 | User Profile

Folks, as for being in shape, I would hope and think perhap's naively that the majority of white W.N.'s are not pro weight lifter's, but of the one's I know that have woken up and are aware of the treason that face's U.S., they are hard working family men, like an electrian, restaurant owner, a business man and motor shop repair man, with age's of these three are 45 to 54.. And for the the ones who don't actually work out; they may not be in great shape, but being on their feet all day, physically working, they are not fat... I worked as a contractor, for 17 years, alway's kept my self in shape from boot camp days to today, I am not fat, but injurie's for blue collar men happen, like a broken elbow, injured painful upper back disc, compound fracture of the ankle, these are reason's for some to become slob's of get depressed, but you can't, you must move on.. By the way, Ibuprofren's and prescription stuff tears your kidney's and liver up.. D.L.P.A. is an amino acid from health food store's or if you see a naturapath doctor they can help you better than the AMA pill pusher's. Just eating non junk food keeps the obessity away. Make your own oat meal cookie's, if you use oil use Grape seed oil not expensive, good olive oil of ripe olive's, flax seed, almond, oil, I recommend never using Canola, soybean, cotton seed, for sure.. Moderation, savor flavor, don't gulp it, make good food, like good wine, don't guzzle.. Please excuse me, as I know the caliber of most poster's here are gentleman, blue collar with an 8th grade education or a PhD learning how de-educated he was. One more thing, there are those that were heavy as children, that is different from say and the fit, man in his twentie's who is now older and has resigned himself to being chubby and buying moon pies. The ladder should know better. Diabetes is rough, I don't have it, but you can get being a runner and always eating allot sugar's and will blow the pancreas I have read. I am no pro on this, but moderation.. I walk 4 to 5 mile's every day rarely not walking a day, even if uncomfortable, is better than sitting after standing all day.. Those of with injuries it's understandable and go easy as being content and laughing can be better for our health that being in tip top shape and be angry all the time. Yet, don't ever let your self go hog wild empy food calories that only hurt you, eat good stuff like sprouted grain bread, two slice's of it will do you as well as a loaf of the so called health food bread, and with no gluten in the sprouted bread to stick to the rear end.


Smedley Butler

2003-10-14 09:03 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Smedley Butler]Folks, as for being in shape, I would hope and think perhap's naively that the majority of white W.N.'s are not pro weight lifter's, but of the one's I know that have woken up and are aware of the treason that face's U.S., they are hard working family men, like an electrian, restaurant owner, a business man and motor shop repair man, with age's of these men ranging 45 to 54.. And for the the ones who don't actually work out; they may not be in great shape, but being on their feet all day, physically working, they are not fat... I worked as a contractor, for 17 years, alway's kept my self in shape from boot camp days to today, I am not fat, but injurie's for blue collar men happen, like a broken elbow, injured painful upper back disc, compound fracture of the ankle, these are reason's for some to become slob's of get depressed, but you can't, you must move on.. By the way, Ibuprofren's and prescription stuff tears your kidney's and liver up.. D.L.P.A. is an amino acid from health food store's or if you see a naturapath doctor they can help you better than the AMA pill pusher's. Just eating non junk food keeps the obessity away. Make your own oat meal cookie's, if you use oil use Grape seed oil not expensive, good olive oil of ripe olive's, flax seed, almond, oil, I recommend never using Canola, soybean, cotton seed, for sure.. Moderation, savor flavor, don't gulp it, make good food, like good wine, don't guzzle.. Please excuse me, as I know the caliber of most poster's here are gentleman, blue collar with an 8th grade education or a PhD learning how de-educated he was. One more thing, there are those that were heavy as children, that is different from say and the fit, man in his twentie's who is now older and has resigned himself to being chubby and buying moon pies. The ladder should know better. Diabetes is rough, I don't have it, but you can get being a runner and always eating allot sugar's and will blow the pancreas I have read. I am no pro on this, but moderation.. I walk 4 to 5 mile's every day rarely not walking a day, even if uncomfortable, is better than sitting after standing all day.. Those of with injuries it's understandable and go easy as being content and laughing can be better for our health that being in tip top shape and be angry all the time. Yet, don't ever let your self go hog wild empy food calories that only hurt you, eat good stuff like sprouted grain bread, two slice's of it will do you as well as a loaf of the so called health food bread, and with no gluten in the sprouted bread to stick to the rear end. ...


Smedley Butler

2003-10-14 09:08 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Smedley Butler][QUOTE=Smedley Butler]Folks, as for being in shape, I would hope and think perhap's naively that the majority of white W.N.'s are not pro weight lifter's, but of the one's I know that have woken up and are aware of the treason that face's U.S., they are hard working family men, like an electrian, restaurant owner, a business man and motor shop repair man, with age's of these men ranging 45 to 54.. And for the the ones who don't actually work out; they may not be in great shape, but being on their feet all day, physically working, they are not fat... I worked as a contractor, for 17 years, alway's kept my self in shape from boot camp days to today, I am not fat, but injurie's for blue collar men happen, like a broken elbow, injured painful upper back disc, compound fracture of the ankle, these are reason's for some to become slob's of get depressed, but you can't, you must move on.. By the way, Ibuprofren's and prescription stuff tears your kidney's and liver up.. D.L.P.A. is an amino acid from health food store's or if you see a naturapath doctor they can help you better than the AMA pill pusher's. Just eating non junk food keeps the obessity away. Make your own oat meal cookie's, if you use oil use Grape seed oil not expensive, good olive oil of ripe olive's, flax seed, almond, oil, I recommend never using Canola, soybean, cotton seed, for sure.. Moderation, savor flavor, don't gulp it, make good food, like good wine, don't guzzle.. Please excuse me, as I know the caliber of most poster's here are gentleman, blue collar with an 8th grade education or a PhD learning how de-educated he was. One more thing, there are those that were heavy as children, that is different from say and the fit, man in his twentie's who is now older and has resigned himself to being chubby and buying moon pies. The ladder should know better. Diabetes is rough, I don't have it, but you can get being a runner and always eating allot sugar's and will blow the pancreas I have read. I am no pro on this, but moderation.. I walk 4 to 5 mile's every day rarely not walking a day, even if uncomfortable, is better than sitting after standing all day.. Those of with injuries it's understandable and go easy as being content and laughing can be better for our health that being in tip top shape and be angry all the time. Yet, don't ever let your self go hog wild empy food calories that only hurt you, eat good stuff like sprouted grain bread, two slice's of it will do you as well as a loaf of the so called health food bread, and with no gluten in the sprouted bread to stick to the rear end. ...[/QUOTE] Since, I am locked out of being able to edit posting's even second's after it goe on the page, I will not cease posting.. The admin, has not aswered my mail, he may be busy, or does not know what the problem is himself. So carry on...... I am out of here.....


Acorn

2003-10-14 18:49 | User Profile

Don't worry Smedley and welcome! I just try to look at my posts "real good" then post them, I don't think I can edit mine either.

You are right about Whites often tending to be in really good shape - it was a matter of sheer survival for me, an IQ in the 160s did not matter, since i was White I was supposed to clean floors and move boxes. Many many many good and highly intelligence Whites are being held down into menial jobs because of the sin of "breathing while White". I do highly suggest self-employment for Whites, instead of working a job, if at all possible. Why? Because self-employment gives on much more freedom than any job, and occasionally a small business can grow to medium or even large size. That gives money and money gives POWER. There are small companies that get away with all-White hiring, and I probably owe my life to a couple of them at times in my life, a couple of companies like that saved me from slow death due to starvation or quick due to violence. I have never had the option of becoming a fat slob, that's for the Chosen who can sit around and eat gefilte fish all day while the Goyim toil. And sit around and think of new says to use industrial waste and industrial oils not considered fit for human consumption in places like Germany in the food here.


W.R.I.T.O.S

2003-10-14 23:37 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Acorn]There are reasons Americans are fat:

(1) The USA is the most Jew-dominated country in the Western world with only England coming close, with Whites becoming 3rd-class citizens, being displaced from their almost-ancestral neighborhoods, jobs, occupations, etc. In times of fear and uncertainty, the instinctive urge is to EAT and to store up for lean times. Think there's no genuine hunger among Whites under the "New World Order"? Pull your head out of the sand. The US population has the same psychological profile as a population in wartime conditions because ..... it is.

(2) Jewfood: No, I don't mean Kosher food although there is some overlap, what I mean by jewfood is corporate-food, food that's full of trans-fatty-acids, loaded with carbohydrates, and basically manufactured with profit first and formost rather than a healthy balance between a reasonable profit and feeding one's Folk. The Atkins diet is partially utter truth and partially salesmanship, you can follow the low carbohydrate diet we evolved on without touching a single Atkins-labeled product, and it's easy. Just NO more soda, churchez la Juif instead and pop a Perrier. Eat lots of meat and veggies and watch your attitude rise as your cholesterol falls. But most Americans are not clued-in to this, and instead eat Entemann's Cardboard Profitable Quasi-Donuts and low fat (but high carb) everything, and can't understand why they're getting fatter and fatter. Think about WHO profits by this. And I'm not even getting into how the plant-derived sterols etc are probably the cause for the decline in White sperm counts and this White birthrate.

This war will be fought with the bullet and the bayonet, but also in a smaller but as important way, with the fork.[/QUOTE]

Please go back the VNN forum. This is just idiotic. Jews are not making Americans fat.


Acorn

2003-10-15 01:54 | User Profile

Yes they are. Someone needs to do a survey of Jewish owners of large food conglomerates, perhaps jewishtribalreview has something on it. And the reasoning goes like this:

(1) The USA has the most commercialized, corporate-dominated, processed and FATTENING diet on the planet, (2) The food industry and the development of processed foods made for profit instead of for feeding one's Folk is disproportionately run by those of the Tribe, (3) Therefore, Jews are making Americans fat.

What this is is an aspect of the culture war, White Western culture, based on one's land and Folk and honest labor, as opposed to a culture where "getting" money, no matter how, is the ne plus ultra of living. A trader, robber-baron culture person will have no problem with feeding cattle shredded newspapers, part of dogs and cats salvaged from the "pound", anything just to make those cattle fat. A Folkish person is appalled by such a thing and in a real Folkish culture your food is raised locally by your Folk, whom you know and are related to, on good food cattle are supposed to eat. It's a cycle of nature as opposed to a cycle of money. I don't know how to explain this, you either get this or you don't.


Sisyfos

2003-10-15 04:42 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Sisyfos,

same sentiment about American vs. European chocolate. Amazingly, even European companies like Nestle, sell crap in the US market (and somewhat better fare in Canada). I am puzzled at this. Do they know that Americans prefer crap, or do they go with the flow and provide traditional sugary brown caramel otherwise known as chocolate in the US?

But, there IS good American chocolate. And will cost you just as much, if not more, as its European counterpart. I was pleasantly suprised how good See's candies are.[/QUOTE]

MR,

Yes, I know there a handful of American brands still palatable, but it’s probably best that I pretend otherwise. Fortunately, the good stuff is never displayed front-and-centre where its presence would do the most damage to the likes of me.

I share your puzzlement concerning American preferences. I remind myself that the peddlers know that the quality is not what it once was but it does not matter so long as the market remains. The quest for profits invariably entails one of two things: securing greater market share or lowering cost of production. Of course one entertains both where feasible. Here the proliferation of sugar accounts for the former and substituting soy, oil, and whatever the filth for cocoa, real butter and other base ingredients neatly accomplishes the latter. American firms, if nothing else, know how to maximize profits, and the Euros would be fools not to imitate their methods and funnel into our market that which the calculus shows to yield the most for the least. The connoisseurs are too few and their defiance amounts to nil so long as the overwhelming bulk of consumers remain content. The customer is always right, as the Yanks are fond of saying. What remains unsaid is that this is never truer than when his preferences have been predetermined.

I vaguely remember the brouhaha in Little Britain not too long ago over what ingredients where permissible and what could be omitted for the thing to still merit the title “chocolate.” Never did find out how it was resolved. Long term, however, I’m not optimistic. Every visit seems to confirm that Europe is merely twenty years behind America (Britain may be more advanced) in cultural matters and all things termed “progressive.”

On a not so related subject, I do find it curious how the English-speaking countries--nations who during the last great brawl have been deprived of the relatively mild form of delousing--seem as a rule to be at the forefront of inventing contributing factors to cultural degeneracy.