← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Hugh Lincoln
Thread ID: 10323 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2003-10-07
2003-10-07 20:49 | User Profile
[I]Isn't this great? Multiracial robbery, just like on TV, where the cop duos are always black/White and the robber duos are, too.[/I]
Oct. 7ââ¬â Kathleen Gregg, wife of U.S. Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., was abducted by two men from her home in McLean, Va., today and forced to withdraw money from a bank, police said.
Suburban Virginia police said Mrs. Gregg had been out, but returned to her house about 9:30 a.m. ET only to find two men, one black, one white, waiting inside. One of the men drew a knife and demanded cash.
The men drove Mrs. Gregg to Wachovia Bank in McLean, Va., and the black suspect accompanied her inside, police said. Mrs. Gregg asked to withdraw money, and the man grabbed the cash from the teller as she was counting it. The suspect then ran outside and got into the vehicle driven by the white suspect. The car is described as a Silver Buick LeSabre with Virginia plates and a license plate number of ADB-9712.
2003-10-07 22:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=fucla].......
What of my concerns is that so many posters here seem to have to resort to devolve into some sort of racial tone or epithet. Why? [/QUOTE] Race is a very obvious issue in today's politics and faith. To ignore race is to court ignorance. Many intelligent people enjoy coming here and discussing issues and with that comes the diversity of the many different points of view. [QUOTE=fucla]....... Another thing, I see so many people post essentially a 'witty' one liner (usually something along racial or 'i hate jews') line and a link or the copy and pasting of an article. [/QUOTE] Can you honestly blame us for observing the dark humor in today's society? Also, when referring to any story, you need to post a link to verify that the source is valid. [QUOTE=fucla]....... Take this post for example. What is the point of it? I can go to 30 different news outlets and find this story. [/QUOTE] I am grateful that Mr. Lincoln took the time to post this story, as it caught my eye before any news program did. [QUOTE=fucla]....... In all fairness, I dont mean to single you out and I could post these same comments under several other threads. This was at the top and I need to work my way up to the 15 posts before I can initiate my own comments.
I guess, to me...it seems....too many people are more interested in 'preaching to the choir' than actually having a substantive conversation about a topic.[/QUOTE] Sharing news and information is hardly "preaching to the choir". [QUOTE=fucla]....... Again...I am not trying to single you out and I realize that this 'attack' is out of left field...but after lurking for a week or so, it seems people around here are more interested in agreeing with each other and patting each other on the back instead of actually going about and manifesting real change. I realize that this is generalized statement and that there will undoubtedly be exceptions. Hell, for all I know, this post of yours might be an exception to your usual posts. I dont know/recognize your name that well from all the threads I have scanned.
I hope these comments arent taken as a personal attack, because I dont mean them to be. I simply am trying to offer up some constructive criticism as I feel that the current tone seems to actually stifle debate and proactive behavior.[/QUOTE]
We are making a difference, and you know it. :)
2003-10-07 23:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=fucla]of course race is an important aspect in society and it plays a signficant roles in many ways.
but it seems that upwards of 90+% of the freaking posts on this board devolve into some banter about race. there are simply some posts on here that dont need the race angle thrown in the mix, yet there usually is one.[/QUOTE]
When reading the different information, facts and tidbits on this board, I like to get as many facts as possible. This includes the race of the individual or individuals in question. To some folks, information about race is not important. Information about the race of the subject or individual is important to me.
Remember, knowledge is power.
2003-10-08 00:14 | User Profile
Race is very important - and needs mention. "Multiculturalism" in the US is one reason we are having so many problems in this country. Yes, we all know the whos and whys behind multiculturalism, but that doesn't change the fact that race needs to be mentioned. Should it instead be buried, as it usually is on the evening news, whent the perp is black - brown -yellow? Fucia makes it sound as if we're all sitting at our keyboards with David Allen Coe (not that that is a bad thing :smartass:! ) singing in the background as we write our posts.
Salt and Pepper stick up teams were a regular item in L.A. from the 60's through the early 80's. In black neighborhoods, the white guy would rob a liquor store while his black partner stayed outside, at the wheel of the getaway car. Vice versa in white neighborhoods. Why? Because the residents of the respective neighborhoods tended to give crappy descriptions when it came to describing someone of another race. Yep, some of these lowbrow crooks are capable of high animal cunning on occasion.
2003-10-08 03:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE]I guess, to me...it seems....too many people are more interested in 'preaching to the choir' than actually having a substantive conversation about a topic.[/QUOTE] If everyone here is in the choir, who else would one preach to? It's up to you to introduce your point of view if it is different from others'. I haven't seen you do that, so I don't understand the complaint.
We tend to focus on race because our opponent has framed things in those terms. Race and religion are what hold communities together, and that special race that is also a religion (or is it a religion that is also a race?) viscerally feels a threat from the white race and Christianity and is working to destroy (or at leats tame and manipulate) both.
That is what is happening in the realm of politics, and a focus on anything else is frivolous.
2003-10-08 20:45 | User Profile
I am glad that this snotty cunt was robbed. It is good to hear that no harm was done, but I hope she was petrified every minute of it. When blacks and other riff raff are terrorizing our traitors in D.C., then maybe they will rouse to the problem. In all honesty, her husband will probably proclaim within the next few weeks that "diversity" is what makes this country so great, and these kids committed this crime due to their socio-economic status.ââ¬Â¦and just for you, Fucla. You gotta love the jew drivel that propels one to say such.
2003-10-08 20:47 | User Profile
[I]Another thing, I see so many people post essentially a 'witty' one liner (usually something along racial or 'i hate jews') line and a link or the copy and pasting of an article.
Take this post for example. What is the point of it? I can go to 30 different news outlets and find this story.[/I]
My one-liners, while no Il Ragno or Alex Linder gems, are decent. If you don't fancy them, come up with better ones. I put effort and thought into the posts I make, and try to post stories that I think will add something to the mix. I'm always seeing stuff on OD that I missed elsewhere, and I'm glad OD is around so that I get to see it. Sometimes you see a "hey, look at this" post, and I think that's fine. No need to tax the brain on everything.
You can go to other news outlets and see the story, but not without the spin I try to provide, that's for sure.
There is some preaching to the choir around here, but believe you me, not always. OD is home of some of the best intellectual showdowns on race and politics I've ever read.
Race and Jews are big topics on OD because they're ignored elsewhere. National Review won't give it to you, rest assured. We are mostly of the belief that race and Jews are not only ignored by other conservatives, but that these social factors [I]drive[/I] much of what happens in the world. So, it's good to come to a place on the Internet where that can be discussed. Other posters have picked up on why I chose this story: Washington traitors are so high and mighty in their belief that "race doesn't matter" that to have one of them experience a violent robbery at the hands of a black is "good," in the sense that maybe the high and mighty Whites will begin to see what we're seeing on the streets.
2003-10-09 09:10 | User Profile
I can see how a new member could get an impression that "it always comes down to race" in many threads here. This is one of the few boards where discussion (or even a mere mention) of race is allowed. Quite a few major boards which will remain nameless would have banned everyone else who has posted in this thread already.
Also consider this: If this many people are talking about race on this board, it is safe to assume that a growing number of people are taking note of race in the real world too.
2003-10-09 21:43 | User Profile
[B]counterproductive[/B]
I see that word a lot. But, as Alexlinder the Great might say, what thus far has been [I]productive?[/I] That's the important question. The answer is [I]nothing.[/I] Clearly, it has not been colorblind conservatism, silence on race and racial difference, or tiptoeing around Jews (with some exceptions on that last one, and I'd call those strategic retreats). I agree that there's a time and place for everything, but the time and place for obsessing about race is here and now, because it's damn important, and we need to be seeding the mental grasses of the future so that some of us, somehow and somewhere, will start acting in accord with what we know to be the truth about Jews, blacks, Hispanics, etc. Hopefully those actions will accompany real political, legal, educational, journalistic, military and otherwise institutional power. For me personally, epithetery was part of my mental unshackling process, and an important one. I'm not so captivated by that as I once was, but it was healthy and good at the time and is still appropriate on occasion today. Billy Roper said recently on VNN that "typing and talking" won't get the job done, but they're a fine beginning. Change begins in people's heads. I like to think of Internet racialism as a "puller" for your real life --- things I wouldn't have said out loud before, I do now, and with confidence. Now, I don't say out loud to people I don't know what I usually say in cyberspace, but the bar's been raised.
2003-10-09 22:59 | User Profile
fucla,
Welcome to the board. As a person "sympathetic" to much of what is written here, I hope you will give OD a chance. If you do, what you will no doubt come to find is that some of the finest pro-White writers and intellects on the Web post here. Just look for posts by Anti-Yuppie, Il Ragno, Walter Yannis, and others -- trust me you won't find writing of that quality on just any old discussion board.
Addtionally, another factor that I believe explains some of the more strident posts here is frustratioon. Many people here are angry and frustrated over the blatant, inescapable racial double standard in this country.
As has already been pointed out, race is a major theme here because you can't talk about it anywhere else. If you do, as you well know, you will be called a "racist", etc. In the meantime, Blacks and other groups can work together to advance their interest as a group, and no one says jack Sh!t about it.
Now if the issue you want to debate is whether strident rhetoric is "productive," or of any value in waking up other Whites to the overall situation, let me just say that this topic has been debated here many, many times.
In fact, many self-described White Nationalists would agree with you that harsh racial rhetoric is not only not productive, it is harmful to the cause. Alex Linder is a case in point. Some people love him; some hate him. It just depends on who you ask.