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2003-10-02 07:15 | User Profile
We all knew it would come to this!
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Limbaugh Resigns Over Comments on McNabb
NEW YORK - Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh resigned from ESPN on Wednesday night, three days after saying Philadelphia Eagles (news) quarterback Donovan McNabb (news) is overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed.
Earlier Wednesday, Democratic presidential candidates Wesley Clark (news - web sites), Howard Dean (news - web sites) and Rev. Al Sharpton called for the cable sports network to fire Limbaugh.
"My comments this past Sunday were directed at the media and were not racially motivated," Limbaugh said in a statement Wednesday night. "I offered an opinion. This opinion has caused discomfort to the crew, which I regret.
"I love `NFL Sunday Countdown' and do not want to be a distraction to the great work done by all who work on it.
"Therefore, I have decided to resign. I appreciate the opportunity to be a part of the show and wish all the best to those who make it happen."
George Bodenheimer, president of ESPN and ABC Sports, accepted the resignation.
"We regret the circumstances surrounding this," he said in a statement. "We believe that he took the appropriate action to resolve this matter expeditiously."
McNabb had said earlier Wednesday that he didn't mind criticism of his performance. He was upset that Limbaugh made his race an issue and said it was too late for an apology.
"It's somewhat shocking to hear that on national TV from him," McNabb said. "It's not something that I can sit here and say won't bother me."
Limbaugh insisted earlier Wednesday he had "no racist intent whatsoever." In fact, he said he must have been right; otherwise, the comments would not have sparked such outrage.
Before McNabb led the Eagles to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills (news) on Sunday, Limbaugh said on ESPN's pregame show that he didn't think McNabb was as good as perceived from the start.
"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well," Limbaugh said on "Sunday NFL Countdown."
"There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team," he said.
Limbaugh did not back down during his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday.
"All this has become the tempest that it is because I must have been right about something," Limbaugh said. "If I wasn't right, there wouldn't be this cacophony of outrage that has sprung up in the sports writer community."
The NFL disclaimed any responsibility from Limbaugh's remarks.
"ESPN knew what it was getting when they hired Rush Limbaugh," league vice president Joe Browne said. "ESPN selects its on-air talent, not the NFL."
Sharpton scheduled a news conference Thursday morning in front of ABC headquarters in New York. He said he would call for ESPN to fire Limbaugh and would call for a national boycott of the network this weekend if he isn't. ABC and ESPN are corporate cousins, both owned by Walt Disney Co.
"I'm going to call for ESPN to terminate Rush Limbaugh as we've seen other networks terminate people for racist remarks in the past," Sharpton said Wednesday night. "I'm shocked that we're at Wednesday and we have not seen an apology from Mr. Limbaugh. We cannot sit back in silence. That would be consent and we would have lost self-respect."
Chris Berman, who anchors the ESPN show, said he did not believe Limbaugh's tone or intent was malicious.
"As cut and dry as it seems in print, I didn't think so when it went by my ears," he said. "I probably should have looked to soften it. We're sorry we upset a guy who got off to a rough start."
McNabb said someone on the show should have taken on Limbaugh. Among the other panelists are former players Michael Irvin (news) and Tom Jackson, both of whom are black.
"I'm not pointing at anyone but someone should have said it," McNabb said of the panelists, who also include former quarterback Steve Young (news). "I wouldn't have cared if it was the cameraman."
Limbaugh was scheduled to be in Philadelphia on Thursday to speak at a broadcast convention. McNabb said he wouldn't be welcome at the Eagles' practice.
"I really don't want to see him," McNabb said. "You can say you're sorry all you want, it doesn't matter. It's been said."
Clark, a retired Army general, called the remarks "hateful and ignorant speech." And Dean, a former Vermont governor, followed up with his own assessment — "absurd and offensive."
The NAACP also condemned Limbaugh's remarks, calling them "bigoted and ignorant," and called for the network to fire Limbaugh or at least provide an opposing point of view on the show.
"It is appalling that ESPN has to go to this extent to try to increase viewership," NAACP President Kweisi Mfume said in a statement.
McNabb, who was runner-up for the league MVP award in 2000 and has led the Eagles to two straight NFC championship games, said he has no quarrel with Limbaugh's comment on his ability.
"I know I played badly the first two games," he said.
McNabb got off to the worst start of his career this season and was the NFL's lowest-rated starting quarterback after losses to Tampa Bay and New England. Still, the Eagles are 36-22 in games he has started, including 4-3 in the playoffs.
Limbaugh on Wednesday reiterated that he doesn't think McNabb is a bad player, just that he isn't as good as some media members think he is.
"This is such a mountain out of a molehill," he said. "There's no racism here, there's no racist intent whatsoever."
Limbaugh is the radio host of the politically focused "Rush Limbaugh Show," which is syndicated in more than 650 markets worldwide.
He spent most of the 1990s assailing then-President Clinton (news - web sites) and now spends Sunday mornings talking football, a job he called "the fulfillment of a dream."
Limbaugh helped increase the ratings for "Sunday NFL Countdown." ESPN spokesman Dave Nagle said ratings are up 10 percent overall. Sunday's show drew its biggest audience in the regular season since 1996.
Seven black quarterbacks started games last weekend. Two other blacks who regularly start, Daunte Culpepper (news) of Minnesota and Michael Vick of Atlanta, were out with injuries.
Asked about Limbaugh's comments, Eagles defensive end N.D. Kalu said: "He speaks well, he's well-read, but he's an idiot." **
2003-10-02 07:31 | User Profile
This is going to sound odd, but I don't blame McNabb for being pissed. What's he supposed to say - "yeah, I suck - because I'm a ni**er"? I've watched him provide nearly 100% of the team's offense single-handedly for years now, so obviously Limbaugh knows less about the game that he's convinced himself he does.
But the engine driving driving driving this idiotic nonstory into major national news is J-E-W-S. When the Frankenstein monster goes on a rampage, you blame Dr Frankenstein.
As for Pillhead Limbaugh, it's a sad commentary that a warmonger toady for Zionist interests who opted out of combat himself due to anal warts should crash and burn basically for his part-time vanity job. I predict the fallout from this will cost him not just hios weekend but his day job....with that trophy wife to follow in short order.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving suckup. The Podhoretzim won't even miss him; never a shortage of fresh goyish mouths around to felch their hindquarters for a big payday. You might see Rush, popping Mexican Xanax, turn up on the Net though, pulling a JimRob and begging for cash to "fight for America".
2003-10-02 09:11 | User Profile
Today's NY DAILY NEWS:
Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Talk radio star had drug habit, maid sez
By TRACY CONNOR DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Talk-radio titan Rush Limbaugh is being investigated for allegedly buying thousands of addictive painkillers from a black-market drug ring. The moralizing motormouth was turned in by his former housekeeper - who says she was Limbaugh's pill supplier for four years.
Wilma Cline, 42, says Limbaugh was hooked on the potent prescription drugs OxyContin, Lorcet and hydrocodone - and went through detox twice.
"There were times when I worried," Cline told the National Enquirer, which broke the story in an edition being published today. "All these pills are enough to kill an elephant - never mind a man."
Cline could not be reached for further comment yesterday, but her lawyer, Ed Shohat of Miami, said his client "stands behind the story."
The Daily News independently confirmed that Limbaugh is under investigation.
His lawyers, Jerry Fox and Dan Zachary, refused to comment on the accusations and said any "medical information" about him was private and not newsworthy.
They said Limbaugh - who has a top-rated syndicated radio show but resigned early today from a weekly ESPN football segment amid criticism of racial comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb - was traveling and had no comment.
The Palm Beach County state attorney's office, which is running the probe, said it could not confirm or deny the allegations.
Scoring in parking lot
Cline told the Enquirer she went to prosecutors with information about Limbaugh and others after four years of drug deals that included clandestine handoffs in a Denny's parking lot.
She said she wore a wire during her last two deliveries to the conservative commentator and gave the tapes to authorities.
She also gave the Enquirer a ledger documenting how many pills she claimed to have bought for him - 4,350 in one 47-day period - and E-mails she claimed Limbaugh sent her.
In one missive, Limbaugh pushed Cline to get more "little blues" - code for OxyContin, the powerful narcotic nicknamed hillbilly heroin, she said.
"You know how this stuff works ... the more you get used to, the more it takes," the May 2002 E-mail reads. "But I will try and cut down to help out."
The account Cline gave the Enquirer is that she became Limbaugh's drug connection in 1998, nine months after taking a housekeeping job at his Palm Beach mansion.
It started after her husband, David, hurt himself in a fall, and Limbaugh asked how he was.
"He asked me casually, 'Is he getting any pain medication?' I said, 'Yes - he's had surgery, and the doctor gave him hydro-codone 750,'" Cline said. "To my astonishment, he said, 'Can you spare a couple of them?'"
Husband's pills
Cline said she gave Limbaugh 10 pills the next day and agreed to give him 30 of her husband's pills each month. When the doctor stopped renewing the prescription in early 1999, Limbaugh allegedly went ballistic.
"His tone was nasty and bullying. He said, 'I don't care how or what you do, but you'd better - better! - get me some more,'" Cline said.
The housekeeper said she found a new supplier and arranged to hide Limbaugh's stashes under his mattress so his wife, Marta, wouldn't find them.
After several months, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox and didn't need any more pills, Cline said.
But a month later, he said his left ear was hurting and asked her for hydrocodone, followed by an order for OxyContin.
Limbaugh, 52, suffered from autoimmune ear disease, a condition that left him deaf and had to be corrected with cochlear implant surgery two years ago.
Cline said she continued to make deliveries to Limbaugh even after she quit as his housekeeper in July 2001 - but he became increasingly paranoid, even patting her down for recording devices, she said.
In June 2002, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox a second time.
After he returned, "I went to talk to him, and he cried a little bit," she said. "He told me that if it ever got out, he would be ruined."
She claimed that a lawyer for Limbaugh gave her a payoff - $80,000 he owed her, plus another $120,000 - and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the E-mail records.
Soon after, Cline and her husband retained Shohat and contacted prosecutors.
Feeling no pain
The drugs Rush Limbaugh is accused of abusing are legal only with a doctor's prescription. All are habit-forming.
Anti-cough agent and painkiller similar to morphine. Side effects include anxiety, poor mental performance, emotional dependence, drowsiness, mood changes, difficulty breathing and itchiness.
Brand name for the combination of Tylenol and hydrocodone, prescribed for moderate to severe pain. Side effects include dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, decreased appetite, dizziness, tiredness, muscle twitches, sweating and itching.
Potent time-release medication for relief of moderate to severe pain, known as hillbilly heroin because of black-market popularity in some rural areas. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, sweating, muscle twitches and decreased sex drive. A large dose can be fatal.
ENQUIRER edition that broke story:
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2003-10-02 10:57 | User Profile
Yet, the jungle bunny Terrell Owens, SF 49er WR, goes on a sideline tirade, while his White coach sits there and takes all Terrell can shout at him. Team mates have little to say. Terrell Owens gets the free pass and no fine and also earns praise from the ESPN ziosports network for being such a passionate, hard playing, manly-man.
PS, I am not defending nor never would defend blowhard Rush. We all know why negroes earn ulimited praise, even if they're outright criminals! Rush, like the Greek, and many others only mutter a bit 'o truth and the zio whip cracks. And ESPN continues to run commercials depicting the White man as nothing more than beer-drinking idiot savants who can't even tie their shoe laces without their uber-feminist wives help.
2003-10-02 11:30 | User Profile
All a moot point. Rush the war-on-drugs dope addict will be the camel-breaking straw.
I'm sure they're all in denial over at FR - blaming Bill Clinton as usual - but Rush's career is over for now. Looks like they have him dead to rights on the pills, and if there's such a thing as 'justice' still extant, Rush will take a long fall for this.
The McNabb thing is a speed bump. Say goodnight, Pillsbury Shabgoy....
2003-10-02 11:30 | User Profile
Charles A Lindbergh, [URL=http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=91760]over on Stormfront[/URL], has posted some insightful and amusing commentary on Limbaugh.
2003-10-02 11:39 | User Profile
After listening for a decade to black commentators such as Bill Russel denigrate Larry Bird as an overrated white boy and get away with it, I'm glad to see some payback. Right now the white boy who led the NFL in tackles last year, Brian Urlacher (sp), when he isn't busy boinking debutante Paris Hilton, has to endure similar smears. His big crime seems to be that he's 1)not black and 2) not overrated uber ape Ray Lewis. Same thing with any white who plays in the defensive backfield.
Read the Philly papers this year and they are all to a man wondering what's happened to McNabb. Football players aren't like boxers who can lose it just like that.
Yes, jew sportswriters are the driving engine behind this but what we read from black sportswriters like Michael Wilborn of the Post is nothing but identity politics.
Fact is, blacks are on a permanent search for their counterpart of the Great White Hope. They see a white QB as the last remnant of white supremacy.
2003-10-02 12:04 | User Profile
Disagree. Here's where Limbaugh f*cked up: he prided himself on being a football savant (remember he dearly coveted a slot on MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL). But the guy doesn't know squat about the game. Like it or not, the Eagles are a playoff-caliber squad whose entire offense is largely dependent on McNabb. They have no receivers, no running game and a mediocre offensive line, yet they are perennially in the mix at year's end. I have no love for overpaid Negro athletes, but if you know anything about the game, you don't use a guy like McNabb, who's a quality player, to hang this particular thesis on!
Now: here is why Limbaugh did it.
His REAL point - that the media is desperate to shill for black qbs and black coaches - is 100% accurate. The NFL rule that fines franchises for NOT interviewing black coaching prospects to fill coaching vacancies is an OUTRAGEOUS example of this. But because the word "JEW" must never under any circumstances emerge from the mouth of The Most Dangerous Man in America (as this grovelling pill freak likes to describe himself)....because he knows better than to point out that JEWS seek at all times to ram their majority-destroying agenda upon every American institution at all times - because he is careful to always boost every Israeli hawk and neo shill as Voices of Erudition that we must listen to and obey - he can only push that the-media-shills-for-chimps line [I]so far[/I].
And - like every OxyContin-gobbling media millionaire who imagines himself bulletproof - he hedged his bets by veering the topic to McNabb because he had to make a choice - go after the blacks or go after the Jews. Since there was never any question which choice he was going to opt for, he did so. (After all, rail on the media's agenda for too long and sooner or later even a small child, noticing the emperor's nakedness, is going to pipe up: "Say, just [I]who runs the media [/I] anyway?")
So he took a page from Davey Horowitz, who cashed in big time with HATING WHITEY and went for what he considered to be The Safe Alternative. He started out making his point about the media, then - hey presto! - looked for a slumping big-name Negro to frame his point around. If he was half the gridiron maven he sells himself as, he would've been smart enough to either pick on a openly odious thug (like Terrell Owens) or - if he were really clever - he would've picked on Kordell Stewart, the Great Black Hope of a few years ago who was hard-sold to the public as the greatest thing since sliced bread, but is now in the process of imploding on a Chicago team destined for a 2-14 season at best.
By using McNabb as his example, he doesn't even have football logioc on his side. And it all stems from his co-opted, gutless fear and trembling before the power of Team Shmuel.
Hey, Rush - you're a football 'expert'....well, you're down 21 in the 4th quarter on your own 5. Your playbook is now down to the Hail Mary of "[I]the pills! The pills made me say it! [/I] It wasn't me, it was - the - blasted - [B]PILLS!![/B]" Pause, sob, squeaky voice. "I have a prooooblem...."
Go for [I]Hi My Name Is Rush And I'm A Drug Addict [/I] and you just might salvage that career of yours. Otherwise, it's lights out.
2003-10-02 12:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Read the Philly papers this year and they are all to a man wondering what's happened to McNabb. Football players aren't like boxers who can lose it just like that.
Yes, jew sportswriters are the driving engine behind this but what we read from black sportswriters like Michael Wilborn of the Post is nothing but identity politics.
Fact is, blacks are on a permanent search for their counterpart of the Great White Hope. They see a white QB as the last remnant of white supremacy.[/QUOTE]
If McNigg was a White QB, suffering the same decline in playmaking, those same Philly jewspapers would be calling for his head in the [I]Place de Concorde[/I]. Nig althetes get all the praise and are sold off to White lemmings-not as slaves, but masters. White QB's constantly endure unecessary roughness from Ape defensemen exaggerating their sacks, but nary such a hard hit has ever been placed on McNigg, McNair, Brooks, et al, because to the nigs, they all brothers, ya know wah i'm sayin'?
2003-10-02 14:10 | User Profile
Though I share the general assessment of Rush as a Zionist toady, this not the first time television has disgorged a right winger. The same thing happened to his syndicated show many years ago, and to Drudge and to Savage.
All of these guys are, by television standards anyway, "populists." They say what the broad cross-section of the country knows to be true, but which to too politically incorrect for TV or coporate media. Remember Drudge and the fetus picture?
They belong on hot media like radio or the internet where truth cannot be as easily suppressed, not on cool media like espn. Radio and the web can't be intimidated by hysterical negroes.
2003-10-02 16:03 | User Profile
This Rushism taken from one of Anti-War.com's commentaries:[url]http://www.antiwar.com/orig/solomon2.html[/url] [B]In a typical outburst before the war on Iraq last spring, Rush Limbaugh told his radio audience: "I want to say something about these anti-war demonstrators. No, let's not mince words, let's call them what they are ââ¬â anti-American demonstrators." [/B]
Shillgoy Rush is done in by his Alien Masters, haha! I'm sure his Masters had dirt on him for a long time, but like the hook-nosed poker players that they are, held out for Rush to draw first and then hit him with a Royal Flush. Rush is Flushed.
May Goy-toys Hannity and O'Reilly follow.
2003-10-02 16:56 | User Profile
All of these pseudo-rightists like Limp-paw have stink bombs suspended over their heads ready to detonate whenever they step outside the clearly marked lines of establishment orthodoxy. The sooner such saviors of the right are discredited and delegitmized the sooner those who see what is happening will abandon them and seek true White leadership.
Unfortunately, as Rush heads into a tailspin, there are 100 little Rushlets ready to pop into his position. In my area, an obnoxious little self-hating White named Glen Beck is rising to syndication using the same format that Limbaugh employed, only more crudely.
As an Eagles fan, I was a bit worried about McNabb's performance in the first two games, and I have to admit I did wish Reid would have given white-boys Detmer or AJ Feeley some time out there. All in all though, the Eagles self destruction on the first two games can't be blamed on McNabb alone.
2003-10-02 23:30 | User Profile
I'm no fan of Rush Limbaugh, but I give him credit for not crawling or trimming. So far, at least, we've seen no tearful apologies.
2003-10-03 00:31 | User Profile
I've been busy for quite awhile. But this Limbaugh incident made me tear myself from work and visit OD. The new look OD. Before I get going, I'd better mention where I've been the last several months. My work took me all over Europe. I won't say who I was working for, but the main thing I worked on was the GP Circuit. Basically, it's a series of track and field meets where the world's best track athletes compete against each other. Switzerland was beautiful. I was in shock over the numbers of blacks, arabs and other non whites in some areas of Europe. There is going to be some type of civil war in Europe down the line. I did see that in track the blacks are coddled like they are in the US. Kenya's top miler Bernard Lagat tested positive for EPO. He was kept out of the World Championships. He's the guy from the Nike commercials who says no one can figure out why he runs the mile so fast. He says he doesn't need the shoes, and that "There is more fast out there." Apparently it's in a syringe. Several other Kenyans suddenly developed illnesses, and didn't compete either. Less than a week later, they were back on the track, running their best times in meets where they could avoid testing. Two days ago, Lagat was let off the hook by the sport's governing body. They said his B sample was negative. Officials always take two samples of blood or urine. If one tests positive, the other is tested with the athlete and his representatives present. Lagat is a medical first. The scientists and doctors who developed the test all say a false positive is impossible. The doctors and European athletes are convinced that either Nike payed off officials, or the IAAF is trying to save face. Officials have let doping get so far out of hand with African distance runners and American sprinters that to admit that it goes on at the levels it does would show officials to be accomplices. Two American sprinters tested positive. Kelli White won the women's 100. When she tested positive for a stimulant, she cried on TV, with the media going along with her claiming that she takes the drug for narcolepsy. Now it turns out several teammates of hers have also tested positive for the drug. Maybe it's a team of narcoleptic black sprinters. She got off, as did Jerome Young. It turns out Young tested positive before the 2000 Olympics, but officials covered it up and let him run. Same thing they did for Carl Lewis and countless other sprinters. If anyone wants me to, I'll go into the whole scandal that emerged in track and some other Olympic sports over the summer. It was big news in some areas when it turned out the US has been covering for drugged up sprinters for decades. Same thing has been going on with African distance runners. Apparently their "European" managers realized about 15 years ago they could avoid almost all spot testing for drugs by having them cycle the drugs while training in Africa. In Europe, they have been able to avoid some tests by help given by crooked meet directors.
On to football. Way back when I said McNabb was overrated. Il Ragno probably remembers that. I don't think he's as high a quality player as some claim. McNabb seems to have deteriorated because teams decided to isolate on him. Just like they have done in some playoff games. It's that simple. Black QB's have happy feet. They take one look at what's going on, then run like SOB's. Almost all of them fail to check off receivers, look off receivers, and so on. McNabb is no different. Jake Plummer will run like hell. But he checks his primary receivers, secondary men, everything, before he packs his bags. When Randall Cunningham was played up as the QB of the 90's, he looked great until he hit the playoffs. The Rams were the first team to isolate on him that season. They did it in the playoffs, and made him look like an amateur. Not all teams will have the personnel to do this, but those that do will beat McNabb and Michael Vick 9 games out of 10. McNair is a different story. He has some discipline. He actually takes time to think. Maybe it's because he can think. I don't know. But I do know the league is forcing black QB's down the public's throats. They'll have to change the game in several ways to make this work, because I'm sure that the main problem is that the black QB's cannot think as well or as fast as white QB's. The reason guys like McNabb and Vick seem to provide close to 100% of a team's offense is due to their style of play. They seem to be incapable of being true field generals like Joe Montana, John Elway, Steve Young, I could go on and on. Jake Plummer now has a decent team behind him and a smart coach in Shanahan. Most black QB's focus their attention on themselves, instead of focusing outward on their options, if that makes sense. Remember "Slash" when he was with the Steelers? Same syndrome.
I like Andy Reid, but he's forced to make statements that he has to know are crap. McNabb is not the best in the business. I have nothing against McNabb. I have never heard anything bad about him, and I hear a lot about many athletes when I'm working for the networks.
The media and the league are trying to force black QB's on the public. If one is great, I'll give credit where credit is due. But most of these guys are media creations. I like football, but at the same time, the colleges and the NFL ignore talented white prospects at many positions. Those white kids that can get out of HS and make it in college at a "black" position are then ignored by the NFL, no matter how good their stats are. No matter how well they perform at the combines. Is it all in the culture now? The media and league won't be satisfied until they can make the sport black, period. Then we'll see some fine games. Disorganization and streetball. Just like the NBA. Now the NBA is drafting Europeans with better skills, better fundamentals, better work ethic, better team thinking. The list goes on. You let a sport become all black, and it falls apart. Just like society.
Limbaugh told the partial truth. But not the whole truth. He knows which side his bread is buttered on. Sorry for the long post, but I've been away for a long time.
2003-10-03 01:24 | User Profile
Good to see you alive & well, RB. No, McNabb's no elite qb but he IS a good player. Teams have effectively iso'd on him, for one reason, because his supporting cast- Thrash, Pinkston, Staley - is second rate. Limbaugh could have made a much much stronger case by using Kordell as his example, not McNabb. The thing is, Limbaugh presoftened his argument by never once pointing to the NFL rule that penalizes teams with coaching vacancies that DON'T interview black coaches (which would have lent much more inarguable weight to his point.)
[QUOTE]I do know the league is forcing black QB's down the public's throats. They'll have to change the game in several ways to make this work, because I'm sure that the main problem is that the black QB's cannot think as well or as fast as white QB's. The reason guys like McNabb and Vick seem to provide close to 100% of a team's offense is due to their style of play. [/QUOTE]
Yup, and it serves them right. They began deliberately making wholesale rules changes to tilt the game towards passing in the 80s in their obeisance to the Great God Offense and it's only gotten worse every year. (Nothing against Warren Moon or Dan Marino, but these guys couldn't carry the jocks of a Unitas - or even a Bert Jones! - on a level playing field.)
The other factor tilting the game towards the running qb has been that Jew-devised wrinkle of making the player's agent more important than the head coach. Hard caps, Monopoly money contracts and unrestricted player movement puts [I]every [/I] pocket passer at a disadvantage, because the likelihood you can preserve an offensive line intact for, say, even five years is a mathematical impossibility. And if you're always behind a patchwork line who never have enough time together to gel - baby, you'd [I]better [/I] run.
[QUOTE]Those white kids that can get out of HS and make it in college at a "black" position are then ignored by the NFL, no matter how good their stats are. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, but - on the other hand - look to the third-down receivers. More and more often they're white. And if the team doesn't HAVE any white wideouts, shoot, they'll just hit the tight end on third and long.
2003-10-03 02:11 | User Profile
I don't know about this, y'all. Unless this story about the pills is true, and I reserve judgement on that, it seems to me the height of stupidity for the neo-cons to burn a shameless Jew fawner like Limbaugh. He's always carried water for them in the past and with this latest war they want with Iran, they know when push comes to shove, Limbaugh will be there stirring up his brain dead audience. Then again, seeing ahead down the road has never been a Zionist strong point.
Of course, they might have decided to replace him with Hannity. This guy makes Rush sound like Buchanan with his obsequiousness. Hell, while I know Limbaugh has planted the mandatory tree in Isael, Hannity has planted a whole damn forest.
Too early for me to tell about this, but damn, I'm enjoying this! Will Limbaugh flee to Israel under the law of return if the drug charges are true? :lol:
2003-10-03 02:22 | User Profile
Maximillian,
Glen Beck is a Jew, which is why he comes across as a self hating white.
2003-10-03 02:23 | User Profile
Excellent knews. Whenever I heard Limbaugh's inane schitzophrenic ravings, I could just picture the spittle flying from in-between his whizzened yellow teeth and I knew the mane was either on some drugs or insane. Obviously its both, and this confirms my suspicions.
2003-10-03 02:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE]McNabb...he IS a good player. Teams have effectively iso'd on him, for one reason, because his supporting cast- Thrash, Pinkston, Staley - is second rate. Limbaugh could have made a much much stronger case by using Kordell as his example, not McNabb. The thing is, Limbaugh presoftened his argument by never once pointing to the NFL rule that penalizes teams with coaching vacancies that DON'T interview black coaches (which would have lent much more inarguable weight to his point.)[/QUOTE]
Disgree. McNabb isn't that great. His defense has been incredible for years, and now that they lost Hugh Douglas & Shawn Barber, they're slightly above-average. They can't mask McNabb's ineffectiveness to complete a 3rd & Long situation.
In the past, that defense kept the Eagles in 10-3 games, where they usually led. That meant McNabb could run or throw. Now they get behind, and McNabb is exposed. He can't pass, can't lead a team back from deficits. Culpepper/Vick can, not McNabb. Rush was dead-on.
-Jay
2003-10-03 03:30 | User Profile
Jay, I said 'good', not 'great'. The reality is Vick has had a half-season under his belt, and Culpepper has alternated good and bad seasons. McNair is probably the best of them but has never stayed healthy long enough to definitively prove that.
And I think my real point has been WATCH THE JEWS who are driving this 'story'. To wit:
[QUOTE] PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie on Thursday accused ESPN of hiring Rush Limbaugh and misrepresenting NFL players in the fictional series Playmakers solely for ratings. He also linked the company to "institutional racism" for its portrayal of blacks.
ESPN had tarnished its image of being one of the most respected media outlets for NFL coverage for the sake of ratings, Lurie said. The hiring of Limbaugh and the show are examples of "racist potshots" toward the league, he said.
"It [ESPN] has been a very well run company. You can say the same thing for Disney. However, some of the events of this week, if you think about it, are built with institutional racism," Lurie said. "It exists. Let's not hide it. Let's not make us believe the problem is a single person. It's far from that."
Josh Krulewitz, a spokesman for ESPN, said, "We obviously disagree with his comments."
Krulewitz said ESPN did not believe Lurie was charging ESPN with institutional racism. "We are not going to respond to any assertion that is not based in reality," Krulewitz said.
Limbaugh resigned from the sports network's Sunday NFL Countdown late Wednesday, three days after saying on the show that Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed.
"We thought we were long past this," Lurie said. "When you hire somebody like that, this is what you're going to get. It wasn't a surprise. You get what you hire."
Limbaugh on Thursday said he resigned as an ESPN sports analyst to protect network employees from the uproar over his remarks.
Lurie, however, said the sports network's problem wasn't solved with Limbaugh's resignation. He singled out Playmakers, ESPN's new series about a fictional professional football team, as promoting racial stereotypes of the league.
ESPN insists the series is a drama. So far, the show has featured the star running back getting a quick cocaine fix 30 minutes before kickoff and outrageous depictions of day-to-day locker room scenarios.
On Wednesday, [B]McNabb said he had no ill will toward the network, and was even interested in appearing on Playmakers.
"I'm still looking for my shot at Playmakers," he said.[/B]
Lurie declined to respond to McNabb's comments.[/QUOTE]
Lurie - the Jew - is steering this towards traditional Jewish territory. McNabb on the other hand is torn - between cashing in on the angry-victim front that Negroes are expected to adopt, and reaching up to grab the shiny tinsel like any chimp instinctively would.
2003-10-03 04:27 | User Profile
On the other hand....from the leftist sportswriter who helped create the McNabb Mystique comes the following. Bear in mind that guys like this feel personally betrayed when their pet minorities don't pay immediate dividends and I feel he's jumping on McNabb unduly out of a sense of personal pique. I can think of at least 7 or 8 clubs who'd trade a few #1s for McNabb right now without thinking twice about it:
[url]http://slate.msn.com/id/2089193/[/url]
[B]Rush Limbaugh Was Right[/B] [I]Donovan McNabb [B]isn't [/B] a great quarterback, and the media [B]do[/B] overrate him because he is black.[/I] By Allen Barra Posted Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 3:33 PM PT
Limbaugh leaves over unfair football flap
In his notorious ESPN comments last Sunday night, Rush Limbaugh said he never thought the Philadelphia Eagles' Donovan McNabb was "that good of a quarterback."
If Limbaugh were a more astute analyst, he would have been even harsher and said, "Donovan McNabb is barely a mediocre quarterback." But other than that, Limbaugh pretty much spoke the truth. Limbaugh lost his job for saying in public what many football fans and analysts have been saying privately for the past couple of seasons.
Let's review: McNabb, he said, is "overrated ... what we have here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback can do well—black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.""There's a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
Let's take the football stuff first. For the past four seasons, the Philadelphia Eagles have had one of the best defenses in the National Football League and have failed to make it to the Super Bowl primarily because of an ineffective offense—an offense run by Donovan McNabb. McNabb was a great college quarterback, in my estimation one of the best of the '90s while at Syracuse. (For the record, I helped persuade ESPN Magazine, then called ESPN Total Sports, to put him on the cover of the 1998 college-football preview issue.) He is one of the most talented athletes in the NFL, but that talent has not translated into greatness as a pro quarterback.
McNabb has started for the Eagles since the 2000 season. In that time, the Eagles offense has never ranked higher than 10th in the league in yards gained. In fact, their 10th-place rank in 2002 was easily their best; in their two previous seasons, they were 17th in a 32-team league. They rank 31st so far in 2003.
In contrast, the Eagles defense in those four seasons has never ranked lower than 10th in yards allowed. In 2001, they were seventh; in 2002 they were fourth; this year they're fifth. It shouldn't take a football Einstein to see that the Eagles' strength over the past few seasons has been on defense, and Limbaugh is no football Einstein, which is probably why he spotted it.
The news that the Eagles defense has "carried" them over this period should be neither surprising nor controversial to anyone with access to simple NFL statistics—or for that matter, with access to a television. Yet, McNabb has received an overwhelming share of media attention and thus the credit. Now why is this?
Let's look at a quarterback with similar numbers who also plays for a team with a great defense. I don't know anyone who would call Brad Johnson one of the best quarterbacks in pro football—which is how McNabb is often referred to. In fact, I don't know anyone who would call Brad Johnson, on the evidence of his 10-year NFL career, much more than mediocre. Yet, Johnson's NFL career passer rating, as of last Sunday, is 7.3 points higher than McNabb's (84.8 to 77.5), he has completed his passes at a higher rate (61.8 percent to 56.4 percent), and has averaged significantly more yards per pass (6.84 to 5.91). McNabb excels in just one area, running, where he has gained 2,040 yards and scored 14 touchdowns to Johnson's 467 and seven. But McNabb has also been sacked more frequently than Johnson—more than once, on average, per game, which negates much of the rushing advantage.
In other words, in just about every way, Brad Johnson has been a more effective quarterback than McNabb and over a longer period.
And even if you say the stats don't matter and that a quarterback's job is to win games, Johnson comes out ahead. Johnson has something McNabb doesn't, a Super Bowl ring, which he went on to win after his Bucs trounced McNabb's Eagles in last year's NFC championship game by a score of 27-10. The Bucs and Eagles were regarded by everyone as having the two best defenses in the NFL last year. When they played in the championship game, the difference was that the Bucs defense completely bottled up McNabb while the Eagles defense couldn't stop Johnson.
In terms of performance, many NFL quarterbacks should be ranked ahead of McNabb. But McNabb has represented something special to all of us since he started his first game in the NFL, and we all know what that is.
Limbaugh is being excoriated for making race an issue in the NFL. This is hypocrisy. I don't know of a football writer who didn't regard the dearth of black NFL quarterbacks as one of the most important issues in the late '80s and early '90s. (The topic really caught fire after 1988, when Doug Williams of the Washington Redskins became the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl.)
So far, no black quarterback has been able to dominate a league in which the majority of the players are black. To pretend that many of us didn't want McNabb to be the best quarterback in the NFL because he's black is absurd. To say that we shouldn't root for a quarterback to win because he's black is every bit as nonsensical as to say that we shouldn't have rooted for Jackie Robinson to succeed because he was black. (Please, I don't need to be reminded that McNabb's situation is not so difficult or important as Robinson's—I'm talking about a principle.)
Consequently, it is equally absurd to say that the sports media haven't overrated Donovan McNabb because he's black. I'm sorry to have to say it; he is the quarterback for a team I root for. Instead of calling him overrated, I wish I could be admiring his Super Bowl rings. But the truth is that I and a great many other sportswriters have chosen for the past few years to see McNabb as a better player than he has been because we want him to be.
Rush Limbaugh didn't say Donovan McNabb was a bad quarterback because he is black. He said that the media have overrated McNabb because he is black, and Limbaugh is right. He didn't say anything that he shouldn't have said, and in fact he said things that other commentators should have been saying for some time now. I should have said them myself. I mean, if they didn't hire Rush Limbaugh to say things like this, what they did they hire him for? To talk about the prevent defense?
2003-10-03 04:31 | User Profile
From Limbaugh's website:
[QUOTE][B]"I am unaware of any investigation by any authorities involving me. [U]No governmental representative has contacted me directly or indirectly.[/U] If my assistance is required in the future, I will, of course, cooperate fully."[/B][/QUOTE]
Let's hope that if and when they do contact him, it is to place hand cuffs on him. :lol:
2003-10-03 05:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]
Yeah, but - on the other hand - look to the third-down receivers. More and more often they're white. And if the team doesn't HAVE any white wideouts, shoot, they'll just hit the tight end on third and long.[/QUOTE]
Il Ragno, your post is filled with good points, as usual. I still say they will further try to tinker with the rules. It may backfire again, as did the changes of the late 80's that haven't really helped wanna be's like McNabb, Kordell, the whole bunch.
I see that you must be a football fan. I admit I am also, even though the sport has been jiggered and stretched to make it as black as possible. Maybe it's because there are still all the elements of preparation and strategy among other things.
Those third down guys you write about are usually white. But they don't get the publicity that black players do. Privately, I've heard some big names comment on blacks having more speed on average, but whites having much better hands and concentration. I don't disagree. When a black player makes a great catch, you hear the Hall of Fame routine from the box. When a white player does, half the time he's complemented, but not in spectacular fashion. The other half of the time, the crackerbox will say it was a breakdown in defense, or great playcalling by the coaches. Anything but athleticism. Years ago, we were galled when Todd Christiansen of the Raiders was playing. Off the air, many color men and announcers would remark that he had the best hands they'd ever seen on a tight end. I think he looked like he had claws out there. He just wouldn't drop a ball. If it was even close, he'd grab it. On the air, they'd say nothing. But black tight ends would get all the fawning.
2003-10-03 05:21 | User Profile
Two words, Roger:
Mark. Bavaro.
2003-10-03 10:00 | User Profile
**BUSH EXPRESSES SUPPORT OF LIMBAUGH; ENQUIRER MULLS RELEASE OF AUDIO
Exclusive
President Bush expressed support of radio star Rush Limbaugh in conversations with top staff on Thursday, a senior administration source told the DRUDGE REPORT.
"Rush is a great American," the president said of the beleaguered host, who has championed the conservative movement for decades. "I am confident he can overcome any obstacles he faces right now." **
-- [url=http://www.drudgereport.com/mattrn.htm]Drudge Report[/url]
2003-10-03 10:02 | User Profile
[url=http://www.drudgereport.com/mattrn.htm]Drudge Report[/url]
Trying agian...
2003-10-03 13:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Let's look at a quarterback with similar numbers who also plays for a team with a great defense. I don't know anyone who would call Brad Johnson one of the best quarterbacks in pro footballââ¬âwhich is how McNabb is often referred to. In fact, I don't know anyone who would call Brad Johnson, on the evidence of his 10-year NFL career, much more than mediocre. Yet, Johnson's NFL career passer rating, as of last Sunday, is 7.3 points higher than McNabb's (84.8 to 77.5), he has completed his passes at a higher rate (61.8 percent to 56.4 percent), and has averaged significantly more yards per pass (6.84 to 5.91). McNabb excels in just one area, running, where he has gained 2,040 yards and scored 14 touchdowns to Johnson's 467 and seven. But McNabb has also been sacked more frequently than Johnsonââ¬âmore than once, on average, per game, which negates much of the rushing advantage.
In other words, in just about every way, Brad Johnson has been a more effective quarterback than McNabb and over a longer period. [/QUOTE]
All you hear spoken about the Tampa Bay Bucaneers is that Keyshawn Johnson and Warren Sapp are the sole reason for the teams success. Even the Buc's White FB Mike Alstott, one heck of a bruiser, is widely ignored.
There was never a problem with the media trashing White QB's. Folks have no problem booing an inadequate player....as long as he's White. I used to have season tickets for the NY Jets, and I don't know if any black player was ever booed. It was like the 90% White crowd at Giants stadium was afraid to boo a negro. I think Huxley was right about his theory of 'herd poisoning'.
However, this week's Sports Illustrated has a nice gushy front page story on the Bronco's superb QB Jake Plummer. I hope the Broncos win the Super Bowl this year.
I think one thing is true: Rush might have broken the ice on the black QB phenomenon. If anything, fans might consider the content and performance of their team's QB regardless if he's black or not. Hell, they might even question why there's so many blacks in the position.
2003-10-03 15:42 | User Profile
Actually, whenever Rush takes time out from his neo-conservative bloviations to lend his gridiron expertise for the week, my ears perk up. The Art Schlister in me takes heed. Rush has been personally responsible for fattening my bankroll on many an occasion. I simply record his picks, and [I]fade his ass[/I]. Works like a charm.
Alstott, before he recently garnered a reputation as a fumbler, seemed to get a lot of praise from announcers and Sportscenter anchorman for his having not just the requisite fullback-power but finesse and agility as well. At Purdue, where he was the featured back and allowed to fully showcase his talents, he was unstoppable... I follow Purdue, and I remember watching a game where he rushed for some 260 yards against some hapless defense. In that game I believe he broke both the schools single-game and career rushing marks. Come to think of it, Pudue has recently produced some excellent white players... Vinny Sutherland, John Standeford, Stuart Schweigart...
2003-10-03 19:20 | User Profile
ll ragno: Rush Limbaugh will be holding court on radio for a long time...he knows his audience just like Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. All of the aforementioned represent the 'new' and 'improved' conservatives abroad in the land...there IS a market.
As for the drug issue: I think there are probably many exaggerations in this story...not that I doubt he was taking the stuff or that he checked into drug rehab...so did Senator McCain's wife, Cindy. Betty Ford was hooked on drugs also. Pain-killers are easily addictive. I'll wait to hear.
That said, I listened to Rush for 11 years but don't anymore...ever since the Elian saga when I caught him lying through his teeth. I'm not a Democrat but I think that Janet Reno did the right thing in returning the little boy to his father.
The bottom line to this story is that Rush should have known better...after all, he had problems with his tv show...radio is his balliwick.
2003-10-03 20:16 | User Profile
Linder raises an EXCELLENT point in his take on this: for all the bloviating about how- at the end of the day - it's all about money and not race (for the clubs and the media outlets covering them), ESPN couldn't WAIT to dump a guy who boosted their numbers by 10%. They had the whiskbroom and dustpan out while he was typing his resignation!
BTW, this was Linder at his most Okiereddust-friendly today: very little schtick. Honestly, I prefer Alex salting his commentary with his barbed-hook style of levity, but you tradcons out there who prefer your rants sober as a deacon and sane-as-a-Dane ought to enjoy this (for once!)
[url]http://vanguardnewsnetwork.com/vnn/showEssay.asp?essayID=1710[/url]
2003-10-03 23:39 | User Profile
So even a Zionist bootlicker like Rush is not immune from being attacked when he offends one of thr Protected Classes.
Now let me take off my tinfoil hat for a minute... They don't want to destroy his career, but they'll give him a good scare. Now people will be even more afraid to criticize a Protected person out of fear... "Hey, Limbaugh almost lost his job because of it. I'd better keep quiet."
Can't you just hear all of the media elite shaking in fear?
2003-10-04 01:10 | User Profile
"Josh Krulewitz, a spokesman for ESPN, said, "We obviously disagree with his comments."
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! :jester:
"Yes, Tex, I'd like a Coke, a bagel and some matzo -- to go."
2003-10-04 01:30 | User Profile
Professional sports are not good for Whites. There's nothing healthy about sitting on your ass drinking beer watching other -- mostly Black -- men, run around and sweat (in fact, it sounds kinda gay, actually). And just the other day I saw two White teenaged males wearing Kobe Bryant jerseys. Made me want to vomit.
And yes, Blacks are sacred. Yes, even more sacred than Jews (I know most of you super-duper joo-haters will disagree). Anyone who says anything -- no matter how slight -- against a Black person is severely punished. There is no other group that gets this treatment.
2003-10-04 01:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Two words, Roger:
Mark. Bavaro.[/QUOTE]
If Bavaro had been black, he could have been a king in NY and in the media's eyes. I remember all the talk about Ronnie Lott hitting him HARD in that famous play - you're a New Yorker, you know exactly the play I'm referring to. The media never mentions that Bavaro was holding the ball when all was said and done. He jumped right up, then marched back to the huddle to get ready for the next play. Meanwhile, Ronnie Lott, who the media claimed was such a hard hitter, was actually fragile. He was a bit loopy afterward. You can see it in the old films. He could time his hits well, but he was hurt a lot. He missed almost 40% of his team's games in his career. No one likes to bring that up. I'll never forget when Andrews (Falcons) saw Lott coming in for one of his cheap shots. Andrews dipped, then stepped into Lott. Lott was on his back, then Andrews made it a point to step on Lott and run him over. Grinded his cleats into little Ronnie the cheap shot artist. Lott was out for a month. No one likes to mention that. It was followed up by Todd Christiansen nailing him the next year I believe, by doing the same thing. Lott was out again. All we heard about was Lott's courage. Not the fact that he tried a cheap shot and lost some teeth.
If Christiansen had been black, we'd never have heard the end of his 80+ and 90 + receptions per year outdoing most wide receivers. There is no justice these days.
2003-10-04 11:48 | User Profile
Well well well, it's amusing indeed to see ol' Rush getting his anal warts filed down by Long Dong Shmuel. Take another handful of Oxys, Rushbo - you should be able to sit down again in a few weeks.
Of course, the fartbag was right in general terms, even if he did pull the essentail jew-punch in the end, as ever. The juu/nig/nig-lover sportswriters have been harping on the "need" for brillo qbs to "dispel racist stereotypes"for at least 15 years. Let's hear these slimy bastards crank up thier fake moral outrage to take up the howl about the total lack of White running backs in the Nigra Football League. There are probably 80-100 million White men in this country - a vast pool of athletic talent that common sense indicates should be providing at least half the star backs, monkey advantages in running and jumping notwithstanding..
2003-10-04 13:46 | User Profile
The popularity ratings of Bush and the War Party have been going down in the polls. This may also be case with the Limbaugh creature. The McNabb bit may well have been calculated to boost the creature's ratings among its lemming followers.
The pill thing undoubtedly surprised the creature. It would be great, as Sertorious theorizes, if the creature were cuffed and dragged off to jail. That would mark the beginning of the end for ZOG, Bush and the War Party. Under ZOG rule, however, only honest folks, Duke and Zundel for instance, are imprisioned. Remember, nothing happened to the Bennett creep, no IRS or Justice Department probes for his astronomical losses to slot machines.
In all likelihood the Limbaugh creature will continue broadcasting its Israel first treason to the lemmings. McNabb is merely a speedbump in the road
-Z-
2003-10-04 19:54 | User Profile
"Rush", Football, and white fans.
[QUOTE]"Rush", Football, and white fans.
"Given the contemptable nature of most of the black football players in the NFL, it is hard for me to face the truth that the lions share of ticket purchases,and merchandise sales come from white sports fans. The thing that I hate is the fact that many white football fans were calling for Limbaughs head. I can understand the nig segment getting stupid over his remarks, but not whites. Love or hate Limbaugh, one thing is for sure, this whole thing showes a lacking in guts and principles by a large segment of the white community. If there would be a white boycott of fans from games and NFL merchandise a big message would be sent.A message that could carry into other things besides sports. However that won't happen. Stupid white sports fans will continue to make heros out of unfit humans.Plus white fans will engage in tailgate parties and go to sports bars and in both cases get drunk and act like Nigs too."-John Harlan
"How many white males do you think will be wasting their time watching the Negro Football League for 10 hours tomorrow with their caps on backwards? I don't waste my time watching mostly lowland gorillas run around the field/court, and I am not shy about telling people about how I feel. It's too bad you can't organize Whites to boycott the NFL/NBA and find something constructive to do on Sunday. I want to see NFL/NBA TV ratings go into the tank, but I probably won't anytime soon."-Separatist
"Sad but true. Nig Sunday during the fall and winter is hard to take. The thing I love is the way nig commintaters alway make these race baiting comments in humor. Deon Sanders is alway making remarks that would get whites in trouble. I don't make it a habit of watching nig sports, but out of curiosity I watch nig personalities just to see how they come acrossed."-John Harlan
More of this Message Board thread: [url]http://www.senac.com/forums/14503/bin/9005.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
2003-10-04 22:48 | User Profile
Obviously most of you here are happy that Rush got his come-uppins BECAUSE he's a friend of Israel?
And he'll keep his radio show BECAUSE he's a friend of Israel?
And how does Pat Buchanan keep HIS job on MSNBC? I know he doesn't approve of Sharon and has criticized Israel for years. Is Buchanan the 'token' jew-hater?
2003-10-04 23:10 | User Profile
arjurg:
And how does Pat Buchanan keep HIS job on MSNBC? I know he doesn't approve of Sharon and has criticized Israel for years. Is Buchanan the 'token' jew-hater?
Buchanan has popularity with certain segments of the public, so he's good for ratings. But he also is constrained by the limits of permissible dissent imposed by TV networks, book publishers, and column syndicators.
If he were to notch up the rhetoric to the level of Sam Francis or Joe Sobran he'd quickly find himself as marginalized as them.
And those limits don't just encompass venues the media barons control. For example, in The American Conservative, a magazine he founded with Taki and edited by Scott McConnell, Sobran (according to Henry Gallagher Fields) is barred from writing in it because of the repercussions for PJB, Taki, etc.
For speaking his mind, consequences be damned, I have infinitely more respect for Joe Sobran than PJB. And guess what? Sobran.com has a current Alexa ranking of 5,372 versus TAC's ranking of 11,396.
2003-10-05 18:34 | User Profile
The most entertaining part of pro football these days is watching the grossly overpaid hairless apes put on their animal acts after making a tackle, running 5 yards, ect. If only these bufoons knew how ludicrous they look while imitating a strutting banty rooster, swagering orangutan or a blustering bonobo. ROFL
2003-10-05 20:11 | User Profile
Blond Knight:
The most entertaining part of pro football these days is watching the grossly overpaid hairless apes put on their animal acts after making a tackle, running 5 yards, ect.
As il ragno calls it: the "lookame jungle softshoe" harkening back to their ancestors dancing around a cookpot of Christian missionaries
Wish I could find that post from awhile back, it was hillarious
2003-10-05 20:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Disagree. Here's where Limbaugh f*cked up: he prided himself on being a football savant (remember he dearly coveted a slot on MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL). But the guy doesn't know squat about the game. Like it or not, the Eagles are a playoff-caliber squad whose entire offense is largely dependent on McNabb. They have no receivers, no running game and a mediocre offensive line, yet they are perennially in the mix at year's end. I have no love for overpaid Negro athletes, but if you know anything about the game, you don't use a guy like McNabb, who's a quality player, to hang this particular thesis on!
Now: here is why Limbaugh did it.
His REAL point - that the media is desperate to shill for black qbs and black coaches - is 100% accurate. The NFL rule that fines franchises for NOT interviewing black coaching prospects to fill coaching vacancies is an OUTRAGEOUS example of this. But because the word "JEW" must never under any circumstances emerge from the mouth of The Most Dangerous Man in America (as this grovelling pill freak likes to describe himself)....because he knows better than to point out that JEWS seek at all times to ram their majority-destroying agenda upon every American institution at all times - because he is careful to always boost every Israeli hawk and neo shill as Voices of Erudition that we must listen to and obey - he can only push that the-media-shills-for-chimps line [I]so far[/I].
And - like every OxyContin-gobbling media millionaire who imagines himself bulletproof - he hedged his bets by veering the topic to McNabb because he had to make a choice - go after the blacks or go after the Jews. Since there was never any question which choice he was going to opt for, he did so. (After all, rail on the media's agenda for too long and sooner or later even a small child, noticing the emperor's nakedness, is going to pipe up: "Say, just [I]who runs the media [/I] anyway?")
So he took a page from Davey Horowitz, who cashed in big time with HATING WHITEY and went for what he considered to be The Safe Alternative. He started out making his point about the media, then - hey presto! - looked for a slumping big-name Negro to frame his point around. If he was half the gridiron maven he sells himself as, he would've been smart enough to either pick on a openly odious thug (like Terrell Owens) or - if he were really clever - he would've picked on Kordell Stewart, the Great Black Hope of a few years ago who was hard-sold to the public as the greatest thing since sliced bread, but is now in the process of imploding on a Chicago team destined for a 2-14 season at best.
By using McNabb as his example, he doesn't even have football logioc on his side. And it all stems from his co-opted, gutless fear and trembling before the power of Team Shmuel.
Hey, Rush - you're a football 'expert'....well, you're down 21 in the 4th quarter on your own 5. Your playbook is now down to the Hail Mary of "[I]the pills! The pills made me say it! [/I] It wasn't me, it was - the - blasted - [B]PILLS!![/B]" Pause, sob, squeaky voice. "I have a prooooblem...."
Go for [I]Hi My Name Is Rush And I'm A Drug Addict [/I] and you just might salvage that career of yours. Otherwise, it's lights out.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Rush picked the wrong example to illustrate a real phenomenon. Kordell Stewart is a glaring example of the problem...McNabb is the exception.
2003-10-06 22:28 | User Profile
McNabb is not the exception. He IS overrated. He's not terrible. He's a good athlete. But he is not a great quarterback. He is average to mediocre. He runs well, but he's average to mediocre in every other area of stats used. He's carried the Eagles, but they have carried him also.
McNair is the exception.
The folks in charge will make further changes to the game to make it more hospitable to black quarterbacks. Let's see how far the Eagles go this season. If they do well, I hope it's for real.
Look at McNabb's endorsement contracts compared to Bret Favre. If you'd take McNabb at his peak over the aging Brett Favre of today, you have been brainwashed.