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Thread ID: 10187 | Posts: 77 | Started: 2003-10-02
2003-10-02 05:06 | User Profile
Blond and blue-eyed Balts:
[url]http://www.legioneuropa.org/Front/latva01.htm[/url]
By the powers invested in me by Wotan and his Divine Court and my Prussian ancestors, I hereby move, or cause to be moved, a resolution proclaiming the voluntary incorporation of the pure and noble Baltic races into the Greater German Reich. The said Baltic races are to have the same rights and privileges as Germans of pure blood.
Witness
"Leland Gaunt"
at the City of Extreme Thule,
this 1st day of October in the year of our Lord Wotan Ten thousand and three.
2003-10-02 06:22 | User Profile
The Balts, Lithuanians specifically, were the last Europeans to convert to Christianity.
2003-10-02 16:39 | User Profile
What about the Balts who look like this, friedrich?
[img]http://www.lrs.lt/n/seimo_nariu_nuotraukos/2000/andriukaitis_vytenis_povilas.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.lrs.lt/n/seimo_nariu_nuotraukos/2000/baboniene_ona.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.lrs.lt/n/seimo_nariu_nuotraukos/2000/baravykas_vydas.jpg[/img]
Being blonde and blue-eyed does not make one "Germanic" by the way.
And, oh, your girfriend doesn't look Germanic. You look Baltic. :)
2003-10-02 17:06 | User Profile
What's wrong with them?
A woman with obviously coloured hair and a pudgy guy.
Is that supposed to say something?
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]What about the Balts who look like this, friedrich?
[img]http://www.lrs.lt/n/seimo_nariu_nuotraukos/2000/andriukaitis_vytenis_povilas.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.lrs.lt/n/seimo_nariu_nuotraukos/2000/baboniene_ona.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.lrs.lt/n/seimo_nariu_nuotraukos/2000/baravykas_vydas.jpg[/img]
Being blonde and blue-eyed does not make one "Germanic" by the way.
And, oh, your girfriend doesn't look Germanic. You look Baltic. :)[/QUOTE]
2003-10-02 17:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]What's wrong with them?
A woman with obviously coloured and a pudgy guy.
Is that suppose to say something?[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with them, I am just wondering whether you'd be willing to accept them as your "germanic kinfolk" :) Lighten up.
2003-10-02 17:11 | User Profile
You should explain to FB that those people are from the Lithuanian Parlaiment.
2003-10-02 17:12 | User Profile
The Baltic races are of very good racial stock; sure, I'd be willing to accept them as part of my Volk.
That was the whole point of this amusing thread! :)
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]Nothing wrong with them, I am just wondering whether you'd be willing to accept them as your "germanic kinfolk" :) Lighten up.[/QUOTE]
2003-10-02 17:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=FadeTheButcher]The Balts, Lithuanians specifically, were the last Europeans to convert to Christianity.[/QUOTE]
That's enough right there to endear them to my Nordic Pagan heart. :thumbsup:
2003-10-02 17:26 | User Profile
I couldn't agree more, LG, we wouldn't be doing the Balts any favours now!
The Baltic countries are virtually 100 % White -- with a large majority composed of tall, blond and blue-eyed people. And no immigration, hence no miscegenation. Let's keep it that way.
I was thinking of a hypothetical future National Socialist State; I'm dreaming dreams of a united Europe based on race...where the Germans are the engine... :cheers:
[QUOTE=Leland Gaunt]A motion I would generaly have supported 60 years ago. today though, it wouldn't be doing the Balts much of a favour, merging them into the decadent, americanized cesspool of mongrels known as the "BRD".[/QUOTE]
2003-10-02 17:44 | User Profile
I guess Balts are ok looking. I still think Slavs are the best looking people in Europe(especially the women). :lol:
2003-10-02 18:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]I guess Balts are ok looking. I still think Slavs are the best looking people in Europe(especially the women). :lol:[/QUOTE]
I've recently saw a news show from St-Petersburg; I did see a lot of blond and blue-eyed Russians. :thumbsup:
2003-10-02 20:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]I've recently saw a news show from St-Petersburg; I did see a lot of blond and blue-eyed Russians. :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]
Belarussian schoolchildren:
[img]http://www.smorgontusa.by.ru/gallery/full/umniki.jpg[/img]
Blond enough for you :clown:?
2003-10-02 20:38 | User Profile
A 100-year old photo:
[img]http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87_5275__01067_.jpg[/img]
2003-10-02 20:40 | User Profile
Russian settlers. There was time when the whites expanded into new territories:
[img]http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/images/p87_7238__01602_.jpg[/img]
2003-10-02 20:42 | User Profile
I think photos are pretty useless when attempting to assess the blondism intrinsic to an entire population. Statistics from physical anthropology are infinitely more reliable. For example, according to Origins and Ethnic History of the Russian People Based on Anthropological Data by V. V. Bunak and Tatiana Alexeeva, 47.5% of Northern Russians are blonde, 95+% light-eyed, and 30% of Southern Russians are blonde, and 98% light-eyed.
2003-10-02 21:08 | User Profile
You think these folks are blond? :1eye: :jester: :clown:
C'mon Kamerad, you can do better than that!
Zvaci will soon show you pictures of the Master Race.
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]Belarussian schoolchildren:
[img]http://www.smorgontusa.by.ru/gallery/full/umniki.jpg[/img]
Blond enough for you :clown:?[/QUOTE]
2003-10-02 21:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]You think these folks are blond? :1eye: :jester: :clown:
Eh, I don't think the light does justice to their pigmentation! In any case, it doesn't matter much what I think: fully 50% of Belarussians are blond.
C'mon Kamerad, you can do better than that!
OK, how about these guys: [img]http://www.idushie.ru/photos/regions/tambov/17sent/02.jpg[/img]
Zvaci will soon show you pictures of the Master Race.[/QUOTE]
LOL, Zvaci's master-race ideal is a swarthy hooknosed Dinaric :). :clown:
2003-10-02 22:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]Belarussian schoolchildren:
[img]http://www.smorgontusa.by.ru/gallery/full/umniki.jpg[/img]
Blond enough for you :clown:?[/QUOTE]
Funny with some brown hair and eyes and that young chap to the left would look very similar to me! Good find Henry! :lol:
2003-10-03 02:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]You think these folks are blond? :1eye: :jester: :clown: C'mon Kamerad, you can do better than that! Zvaci will soon show you pictures of the Master Race.[/QUOTE]
With pleasure :)
2003-10-03 02:26 | User Profile
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2003-10-03 02:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]With pleasure :)[/QUOTE]
You're a Nordicist now Zvaci?
By the way, I think that Alexander Godunov is just as good an example of a Nordic as the guy you posted: [img]http://www.ozcraft.com/scifidu/diehard/cast_karl.jpg[/img]
2003-10-03 02:28 | User Profile
Alexey Gordeev is an excellent example of a Corded Nordic: [img]http://www.rg.ru/oficial/spravka/pravit/image/gordeev_2.jpg[/img]
2003-10-03 02:28 | User Profile
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2003-10-03 02:29 | User Profile
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2003-10-03 02:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]You're a Nordicist now Zvaci? [/img][/QUOTE]
No, just respective toward this type of European man.
2003-10-03 02:48 | User Profile
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2003-10-03 03:07 | User Profile
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2003-10-03 03:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]You're a Nordicist now Zvaci?
By the way, I think that Alexander Godunov is just as good an example of a Nordic as the guy you posted: [img]http://www.ozcraft.com/scifidu/diehard/cast_karl.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
He was great in the PC beowulf ripoff where the Vikings need a darkie to lead them.
The guy is massive- saw him in Beverly Hills once, a pile of bricks.
2003-10-03 03:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]4....,[/QUOTE]
She's not Nordic. She has projecting malars, and a low-bridged, upturned concave nose. Also, her ash-blonde pigmentation is more typical of the East Baltic race (of which she is a member) rather than the Nordic race.
2003-10-03 03:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]No, just respective toward this type of European man.[/QUOTE]
Respective or jealous?
2003-10-03 03:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]12.....[/QUOTE]
Link the page and be done with it.
2003-10-03 03:34 | User Profile
"Henry Ford",
Bruder Zvaci is a good and honourable man, I have come to know him here and on other forums (thank you Zvaci for the great pictures, I knew that I could count on you!!!). And Croatia has historically been Germanyââ¬â¢s reliable and plucky ally. Our Fuehrer spoke highly of Croatia and its brave people; and the military valour and combativeness of Croatians favourably impressed German generals.
You don't have to be a "Nordicist" to admire a certain racial type, you know HF?
I have posted the same picture of the Russian actor Alexander Godunov (on OD) before as an example of a racial ideal (in a thread mocking rban and his stupid tirades aimed at Slavs). So, I don't know why you're showing hostility in this thread and in the thread on "Legion Europa". (What's the problem, friend? No one is taking anything away from you, and no one has disparaged Russians in any way, shape or form.) I have never said that Russians weren't Aryans -- for the record, I consider Russians to be Aryans and they are Aryans. AG is a perfect example of a Russian, tall, blond, and blue-eyed Nordic Aryan. I want Russia to have many more such Russians, and the thought of the current Russian demographics gives me a great deal of pain.
There's nothing in the world that the Jew hates more than the tall, blond and blue-eyed Aryan. Believe me. The Enemy of the Aryan would love to destroy this ideal through the active promotion of mass immigration into our countries and the accompanying miscegenation and multiculturalism. An Aryan is the antithesis of a Jew; the Aryan is the Semite's exact opposite. The two are in fact archetypes.
We must celebrate our racial ideal, as well as ensure the biological integrity and further propagation of the said ideal. Never forget that our common Enemy always despises most what we cherish most.
Therefore, let us rejoice together at the continued survival of our race (if the present demographic trends persist the White race will be extinct within the next two hundred years).
FB
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]You're a Nordicist now Zvaci?
By the way, I think that Alexander Godunov is just as good an example of a Nordic as the guy you posted: [img]http://www.ozcraft.com/scifidu/diehard/cast_karl.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
2003-10-03 04:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]She's not Nordic. She has projecting malars, and a low-bridged, upturned concave nose. Also, her ash-blonde pigmentation is more typical of the East Baltic race (of which she is a member) rather than the Nordic race.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious?
I frankly can't tell from that little black and white picture if the woman is Nordic or not. Hence, I won't be making any ex cathedra pronouncements on her racial type like some eagle-eyed racial pope.
As the old saying goes: a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
First of all, having blond hair and blue eyes does not automatically make one Nordic. Likewise, not having blond hair and blue eyes does not exclude one from being of Nordic racial type. The N-S cline in hair and eye pigmentation in Europe probably dates to the Paleolithic. Classical Nordics didn't enter Scandinavia until much later. The original central European Nordics probably had light eyes and medium hair (ranging from blond to dark brown).
2003-10-03 04:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]"Henry Ford",
Bruder Zvaci is a good and honourable man, I have come to know him here and on other forums (thank you Zvaci for the great pictures, I knew that I could count on you!!!). And Croatia has historically been Germany’s reliable and plucky ally. Our Fuehrer spoke highly of Croatia and its brave people; and the military valour and combativeness of Croatians favourably impressed German generals.[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much deer brother. I shall always love Germany as the highest cathedral of European culture and strongest battlewall of Aryan strength. Every assault on Germany I feel as the assault on my own beloved nation of the Croats. Let Allfather give us power to defeat all our foes from without and from within. ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND!
[QUOTE]You don't have to be a "Nordicist" to admire a certain racial type,[/QUOTE]
I have some Nordic string my self, so not honoring it would be like not honoring part of my ancestors. But I do agree with Rosenberg that "…nothing would be more superficial than to measure a man's worth by his physical appearance (with a centimeter rule and cephalic indices). A far more accurate measure of worth is conduct."
[QUOTE] you know HF?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I remember him from ex-AD. Our positions differ in many points differ but we always had civil conversation.
@Campion Moore Boru
If I had all links to the images I like, my favorites would be one kilometer long.
2003-10-03 17:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun] There's nothing in the world that the Jew hates more than the tall, blond and blue-eyed Aryan. Believe me. The Enemy of the Aryan would love to destroy this ideal through the active promotion of mass immigration into our countries and the accompanying miscegenation and multiculturalism. An Aryan is the antithesis of a Jew; the Aryan is the Semite's exact opposite. The two are in fact archetypes. [/QUOTE]
And what about brown hair and brown-eyed whites such as myself?
2003-10-03 20:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]And what about brown hair and brown-eyed whites such as myself?[/QUOTE]
The Jew also hates you (He hates all White gentiles -- I might post some quotes on the Jew's hatred of Whites, these quotes are from very prominent Jews); wear His enmity as a badge of honour!
2003-10-03 21:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]With pleasure :)[/QUOTE]
Zvaci,
This picture took my breath away!
[url]http://forums.originaldissent.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6[/url]
The man simply carries an uncanny resembles to my Prussian grandfather; in fact, it could be him! I might post a picture of him in the future (very blond -- like the guy in the picture -- and light blue-eyed). This dude in the picture has my immediate family's phenotype.
That's the racial ideal I'm talking about, right there. A true Germane.
If I was to become the head of a National Socialist Germany, my very first task would be to embark on a program of strict racial hygiene, eugenics and genetic engineering. The goal would be to have the antire German Reich look like that, i.e., tall, blond, and blue-eyed -- aesthetically gorgeous. And I mean every man, woman and child. The old National Socialists - the Altkämpfer -- didn't come up with this particular racial type as the ideal. The veneration of this racial type has been part and parcel of the Teutonic character for centuries (as a matter of fact, there's nothing more German).
2003-10-03 21:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]The Jew also hates you (He hates all White gentiles -- I might post some quotes on the Jew's hatred of Whites, these quotes are from very prominent Jews); wear His enmity as a badge of honour![/QUOTE]
Well good. My father is blond and blue eyed but my mother is brown haired and eyed. Interesting, up untill I was 5 I actually was blond haired blue eyed but later my eye and hair color changed. Damn! ;)
2003-10-03 23:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]Well good. My father is blond and blue eyed but my mother is brown haired and eyed. Interesting, up untill I was 5 I actually was blond haired blue eyed but later my eye and hair color changed. Damn! ;)[/QUOTE]
That happens to most of us. It is natural. It happened to me also.
2003-10-03 23:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ritter]That happens to most of us. It is natural. It happened to me also.[/QUOTE]
Really? I didn't know that. Hmmmn, interesting.
2003-10-03 23:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=rban]Perun is leaping at your throat, Braun, for the same reason that his cousins MR and PS are soooo over-sensitive .... because they know that not only are they not Aryans, in fact they are not even pure Caucasian. [/QUOTE]
I'm not leaping at Braun's throat, at least not on this topic. The only topic me and Braun seem to leap at is religion. But no I'm just simply asked what about browned hair and eyed whites.
As to me personally not being pure Caucasian, I guess you must have secret access to my family birth records.
2003-10-04 00:29 | User Profile
I would like to put a comment on some passages from this site: [url]http://www.geocities.com/dienekesp/natsoc.html[/url]
[QUOTE]the Nordic race "was and is the only race capable of creating a culture" [/QUOTE]
It's the fact oldest and greatest cultures was created by Alpine, Dinaric and even Mediterranean (non-Semitic) man: Summerians, Egyptians, Ancient Greeks, Romans ect. All of this types was capable to be blue-eyed and depigmented, just like Coon said, blondism is not the privilege of Nordic man only. Nordic area (in strict meaning of the term) was culturally impotent until very recent times.
[QUOTE]Weinlaender will have nothing of the nonsense concerning racial evolution. He, like Hauser, (16) contends that the Nordic Race is a special act of creation. (17) "Human races," he informs us, "have evolved out of the lower animals, but each was the result of a creative act separated in space and time... The series included: Humanoids, Prehistoric Men, Giants, Pigmies, Australians, Negroes, Malayans, Indians, Mongolians and at last 'the image of God,' the Nordic Race." (18) All the so-called races (Alpine, Dinaric, Mediterranean, East-Balts, etc.) are simply the bastards of the unnatural coupling of Nordic Man with the enumerated inferior races. [/QUOTE]
This presumption is implying that all non-Nordic races of Aryan man are the results of interbreeding of 'devine' Nordic race with other non-white races hence they are evolutionary inferior animals. If Alpines and Dinarics are just some sort of muds than why the Nordic 'Gods' never created civilization equal to the civilization of Rome for example. The ruling and creative class of Rome was Dinaric, not Nordic. Observe also Alpine and Dinaric features of Greek philosophers. Example of Germany is good example also: Bayern, Austria, Schwabien (lands under strong Alpine and Dinaric influence) are culturally most creative areas of Germany and Europe.
[QUOTE]This natural inferiority of non-Nordic races is attested to by the fact that the iris of the eye and the hair, and in worse cases even the skin is pigmented. [/QUOTE]
How can the eye color connected with creativeness? Its the fact most of the great and creative individuals of the White race was not depigmented.
[QUOTE]All beauty, (22) physical and spiritual harmony, tall stature and dolichocephaly (23) are the sole property of the Nordic Race.[/QUOTE]
In fact even African Negroes can be tall and dolichocephalyc. Race is not only about phenotype but also the genetic ancestry and culture. The greatest opposition to the destructive Jew is the creative Aryan man - subrace irelevant.
2003-10-04 00:46 | User Profile
Perun,
Why even respond to a :dung: - skin's provocations and inanities?
HF had a study a while back on Indians' genetic closeness to Africans.
I think rban would be better off posting his droppings on a blog for Asiatics and mongrels ("gene expression" springs to mind).
[QUOTE=perun1201]I'm not leaping at Braun's throat, at least not on this topic. The only topic me and Braun seem to leap at is religion. But no I'm just simply asked what about browned hair and eyed whites.
As to me personally not being pure Caucasian, I guess you must have secret access to my family birth records.[/QUOTE]
2003-10-04 00:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=rban]Perun is leaping at your throat, Braun, for the same reason that his cousins MR and PS are soooo over-sensitive .... because they know that not only are they not Aryans, in fact they are not even pure Caucasian. I am the only pure Aryan Master Race here.[/QUOTE]
Present day Indians, Greeks and Iranians are not the same like ancient Aryans. Whites was just the upper class minority in India and Iran. Similar thing is with Greeks, this days Greeks look more like Turks than other Europeans.
2003-10-04 03:34 | User Profile
Zvaci,
The Greek nationalist Dienekes Pontikos (a fervent Greek nationalist who lives in California, btw -- lol! :lol: ) is a curious individual. I don't trust him further than I can kick him.
Here's an idea of whom we're talking about:
[url]http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/pontikosexposed.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Zvaci]Present day Indians, Greeks and Iranians are not the same like ancient Aryans. Whites was just the upper class minority in India and Iran. Similar thing is with Greeks, this days Greeks look more like Turks than other Europeans.[/QUOTE]
2003-10-04 04:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]LOL, Zvaci's master-race ideal is a swarthy hooknosed Dinaric :). :clown:[/QUOTE]
Dinaric aristocrats build Roman Empire instead of dwelling threw the steppes raising mud huts. :closedeye
2003-10-04 04:47 | User Profile
Sorry Zvaci, I wrote Zavi in the post above.
Zavi is actually the name of a ruthless and crooked Jew lawyer (surprise!) I know.
[QUOTE=Zvaci]Dinaric aristocrats build Roman Empire instead of dwelling threw the steppes raising mud huts. :closedeye[/QUOTE]
2003-10-04 04:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]Zavi,
The Greek nationalist Pontikos Dienekes (a fervent Greek nationalist who lives in California, btw -- lol!) is a curious individual. I don't trust him further than I can kick him.
Here's an idea of whom we're talking about:
[url]http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/pontikosexposed.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Very interesting reading, ill injoy reeding this. I must say I don't trust Greeks ingenerally. They have strong lobby and they are usually more active than other muds. Only a complete historic ignorant can believe that Levantine Byzantines and specially post-Ottoman Byzantines are descendents of Achilleus.
From the site:
[QUOTE]"Pontikos believes that if all of the races in the world were mixed together, a "Mediterranean" would result!"[/QUOTE]
This is often used formula from the side of mongrels. I have meet many non White people on the net which hide behind race and traditions of Mediterraneans. They are usually S. American mestizos, Ameridians, Neo-Greeks or simply American mulattos. I don't think they know how pure European Mediterranean and specially lighter variant of (Atlanto-Mediterraneans) look like. Many good stuff about mongrelizations of Greece can be found on 'Refuting Racial Myths' site also, but I must object to some radical classifications like calling real Hellen like Socrates to be 'racial decadent' because he had Alpine features. Was Beethoven a racial decadent for being Alpine? Its the fact that White race is not homogenous race, and this is all natural from my point of view, we are not Chinese or Negros that we all have to look alike.
2003-10-04 06:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]Dinaric aristocrats build Roman Empire instead of dwelling threw the steppes raising mud huts. :closedeye[/QUOTE]
GREAT! We're getting into this debate again now aren't we? Just terrific!
Nevermind that the Slavs before converting to Christianity posed a serious threat to the Byzantine Empire(aka eastern Roman Empire).
2003-10-04 06:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]Perun,
Why even respond to a :dung: - skin's provocations and inanities?
HF had a study a while back on Indians' genetic closeness to Africans.
I think rban would be better off posting his droppings on a blog for Asiatics and mongrels ("gene expression" springs to mind).[/QUOTE]
This is what I have to say about Rban's gods
[url]http://www.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/dickandjane/mortalenema_ganeshaandjill.jpg[/url]
2003-10-04 07:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]Dinaric aristocrats build Roman Empire instead of dwelling threw the steppes raising mud huts. :closedeye[/QUOTE]
My ancestors were fierce horsemen who domesticated the horse in the Southern Russian steppe and spread Indo-European speech across Europe - they certainly didn't dwell in "mud huts." By the way you should check out some of the Kurgans that my forefathers built-they certainly knew how to leave for the afterlife with style. :punk:
2003-10-04 07:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]My ancestors were fierce horsemen who domesticated the horse in the Southern Russian steppe and spread Indo-European speech across Europe - they certainly didn't dwell in "mud huts." By the way you should check out some of the Kurgans that my forefathers built-they certainly knew how to leave for the afterlife with style. :punk:[/QUOTE]
Not to mention that those horsemen several centuries later would beat back Napoleon's forces and liberate all of Europe. Of course we could also mention how we saved Europe from the Mongols. Then our Slavic brothers the Serbs helped protect Europe's southern flank against the Turks.
2003-10-04 07:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]GREAT! We're getting into this debate again now aren't we? Just terrific![/QUOTE]
Yes, HF had to show his animosity toward dinarics.
[QUOTE]Nevermind that the Slavs before converting to Christianity posed a serious threat to the Byzantine Empire(aka eastern Roman Empire).[/QUOTE]
Few Turks on medieval banana boats concurred rotten Byzantine Empire. But Slavs (unfortunately) could not. It was Eastern 'Roman' Empire just by nominally - In reality just mongrelized bunch of incompetent Levantines.
2003-10-04 07:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]Yes, HF had to show his animosity toward dinarics.
I was just joking Zvaci. Honestly. Hence the LOL in the front. I know your favorite type is the Dinaric.
:)
No hard feelings OK?
2003-10-04 07:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci] Few Turks on medieval banana boats concurred rotten Byzantine Empire. But Slavs (unfortunately) could not.
Have you heard of Prince Oleg(879-912)?
It was Eastern 'Roman' Empire just by nominally - In reality just mongrelized bunch of incompetent Levantines.[/QUOTE]
Ok I'm still somewhat new to the phenotype topic. Anyways, I still admire Byzantium and the Greeks as fellow Eastern Christians. After all I'm am a [B]Byzantine[/B] Catholic. Besides, the Western empire fell long before the Eastern empire did.
2003-10-04 07:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Henry Ford]I was just joking Zvaci. Honestly. Hence the LOL in the front. I know your favorite type is the Dinaric.
:)
No hard feelings OK?[/QUOTE]
LOL All forgotten, joke on me :jester:
[IMG]http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/peter_close2.jpg[/IMG] :)
2003-10-04 07:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]Have you heard of Prince Oleg(879-912)? [/QUOTE]
Too bad he quitted for a few bucks of Byzantine tribute, history of Southern Balkans would be completely different and he would spare us from the long struggle with the Turks.
[QUOTE] Ok I'm still somewhat new to the phenotype topic. Anyway, I still admire By and the Greeks as fellow Eastern Christians..[/QUOTE]
I admire Achaeans, Dorians, Macedons ect, and when I say I admire the Greeks - I identify term 'Greeks' with this ethnicity, not Byzantines. I also admire ancient Persians, but I hardly find sympathies for Arabians of this days Iran.
[QUOTE]After all I'm am a [B]Byzantine[/B] Catholic.[/QUOTE]
I am Roman Catholic. Does that mean I have to admire Sicilians?
2003-10-04 15:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]Not to mention that those horsemen several centuries later would beat back Napoleon's forces and liberate all of Europe.[/QUOTE]
I like Napoleon. He was a genius and a great leader. When he liberated Dalmatians from the Venetian occupation Croats followed him like he was their own king. During his retreat from Russia across Berezino, more than two thirds of the Croat soldiers lost their lives protecting French flanks: 400 soldiers and 10 officers, plus 357 dead of famine and freezing. Only 296 survived. Marshal Marmont noted Napoleon’s comments about the Croats: ”I never had braver and better soldiers. The Croats are the best soldiers in the world. If I had one hundred thousand Croats I would conquer whole world”.
From Napoleons speech to the survivors:
[I]"Hier, j'ai pu m'assurer de mes propres yeux de votre courage et de votre fidélité. Vous avez acquis la gloire immortelle et l'estime, et je vous place parmi mes meilleurs troupes. Pour votre courage, je vous promets de vous accorder tout ce que vous me demanderez de bon droit lorsque nous serons de retour."[/I]
Translation: "Yesterday, I could ensure with my own eyes about your courage and your fidelity. You acquired immortal glory and value, and I place you among my best troops. For your courage, I promise to you to agree all righteous and good that you will ask of me when we are back."
[IMG]http://www.napoleon-bonaparte.napoleon-online.de/assets/images/Napoleon.jpg[/IMG]
Napoleon was not typical dinaric due to his lack of light, but his face, like the face of Alexander is revealing the noble dinaric lines and aristocratic aquiline nose. Its the virtuous face of roman senator, patrician or general before late republican era of racial and moral decadence.
2003-10-04 16:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]Napoleon was not typical dinaric due to his lack of light, but his face, like the face of Alexander is revealing the noble dinaric lines and aristocratic aquiline nose. Its the virtuous face of roman senator, patrician or general before late republican era of racial and moral decadence.[/QUOTE]
à ½ao mi je druà ¾e. Napoléon, to me, looks IE Mediterranean with some upper-paleolithic mix. He doesn't look Dinaric, from what I have seen. Neither has he the chin, nose, or stature of an Dinaric. Definately looks as a Roman patrician, being from Corsica, ofcourse.
2003-10-04 16:25 | User Profile
[quote=Zvaci] I am Roman Catholic. Does that mean I have to admire Sicilians?[/QUOTE]
Where did I say you have to admire Sicilians? Much of Russia/Ukraine's Eastern Christian heritage came from Greece and for that I'm grateful to them(whatever phentotype they were at the time). The modern-day Greeks gave strong support to their Orthodox brothers the Serbs during the 1999 NATO bombing. These are only a fraction of the reasons why I won't hold negative attitudes towards the Greeks.
2003-10-04 16:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ritter]Žao mi je druže. Napoléon, to me, looks IE Mediterranean with some upper-paleolithic mix. He doesn't look Dinaric, from what I have seen. Neither has he the chin, nose, or stature of an Dinaric. Definately looks as a Roman patrician, being from Corsica, ofcourse.[/QUOTE] Imaš dobro oko druže. :) Yes I would agree he has Mediterranean influence: He is not tall, his constitution is average, but I do notice some lines that remind me on dinaric man. Its hard to tell because paintings are not accurate like photography: [IMG]http://genealogie.pialat.com/images/napoleon.jpg[/IMG]
On this one I notice he has high forehead which is not Mediterranean characteristic. Also the chin is more prominent. His type of partial baldness also reminds me on dinarics. His family was of Florentine nobility, and the type of dinaricized Mediterranean (like actor Silvester Stalone forinstance) are not rare in Middle and Northern Italy. But like I said, its hard to tell since pictures are diverse. This one is pointing out the typical nose even better, but the chin is less prominent unlike on the first one: [IMG]http://www.coffeehouseculture.com/E-zine/Issue%20One/E-zine%20Pages/Issue%20One%20Pages/Page%2006/Linked%20files/Napoleon.gif[/IMG]
2003-10-04 17:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]Much of Russia/Ukraine's Eastern Christian heritage came from Greece and for that I'm grateful to them(whatever phenotype they were at the time). The modern-day Greeks gave strong support to their Orthodox brothers the Serbs during the 1999 NATO bombing. These are only a fraction of the reasons why I won't hold negative attitudes towards the Greeks.[/QUOTE]
I have much greater respect toward more noble culture of the Roman and Germanic Frankish culture of the West even if Byzantium was on higher level of civilization at that time. Its the fact that Frankish crusaders concurred Byzantium (unlike Prince Oleg) and I'm proud I belong to this civilization.
[QUOTE]The modern-day Greeks gave strong support to their Orthodox brothers the Serbs during the 1999 NATO bombing. These are only a fraction of the reasons why I won't hold negative attitudes towards the Greeks.[/QUOTE]
You choose to follow your confession and culture over race. Nobody can object me to do the same. [I]Montjoie Saint Denis![/I] :punk:
2003-10-04 19:39 | User Profile
The greatest Frenchman ever was actually an Italian.
FW Nietzsche referred to Napoleon Bonaparte as a "Blond Beast"; that was the highest compliment the philosopher could pay someone.
[QUOTE=Zvaci]I have much greater respect toward more noble culture of the Roman and Germanic Frankish culture of the West even if Byzantium was on higher level of civilization at that time. Its the fact that Frankish crusaders concurred Byzantium (unlike Prince Oleg) and I'm proud I belong to this civilization.
You choose to follow your confession and culture over race. Nobody can object me to do the same. [I]Montjoie Saint Denis![/I] :punk:[/QUOTE]
2003-10-04 20:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]"Henry Ford",
Bruder Zvaci is a good and honourable man, I have come to know him here and on other forums (thank you Zvaci for the great pictures, I knew that I could count on you!!!). And Croatia has historically been Germanyââ¬â¢s reliable and plucky ally. Our Fuehrer spoke highly of Croatia and its brave people; and the military valour and combativeness of Croatians favourably impressed German generals.
You don't have to be a "Nordicist" to admire a certain racial type, you know HF?
I have posted the same picture of the Russian actor Alexander Godunov (on OD) before as an example of a racial ideal (in a thread mocking rban and his stupid tirades aimed at Slavs). So, I don't know why you're showing hostility in this thread and in the thread on "Legion Europa". (What's the problem, friend? No one is taking anything away from you, and no one has disparaged Russians in any way, shape or form.) I have never said that Russians weren't Aryans -- for the record, I consider Russians to be Aryans and they are Aryans. AG is a perfect example of a Russian, tall, blond, and blue-eyed Nordic Aryan. I want Russia to have many more such Russians, and the thought of the current Russian demographics gives me a great deal of pain.
There's nothing in the world that the Jew hates more than the tall, blond and blue-eyed Aryan. Believe me. The Enemy of the Aryan would love to destroy this ideal through the active promotion of mass immigration into our countries and the accompanying miscegenation and multiculturalism. An Aryan is the antithesis of a Jew; the Aryan is the Semite's exact opposite. The two are in fact archetypes.
We must celebrate our racial ideal, as well as ensure the biological integrity and further propagation of the said ideal. Never forget that our common Enemy always despises most what we cherish most.
Therefore, let us rejoice together at the continued survival of our race (if the present demographic trends persist the White race will be extinct within the next two hundred years).
FB[/QUOTE]
I apologize. I am sorry if I came off as irritable - I meant to sound humorous :). My new log-in name means "Unity Makes Strength" (yes, I absolutely must change my username every couple of weeks :) ). Its high-time our movement adopted this slogan in word and in deed.
2003-10-04 20:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]I have much greater respect toward more noble culture of the Roman and Germanic Frankish culture of the West even if Byzantium was on higher level of civilization at that time.
Yes I already knew that after reading your posts from the "Polish Resistance during WW2" thread.
Its the fact that Frankish crusaders concurred Byzantium (unlike Prince Oleg) and I'm proud I belong to this civilization.
I believe you meant to say [I]conquered[/I]. Now I like it how you glorify the senseless killing of Eastern Christians, which only furthered to drive the two factions of Christianity apart.
You choose to follow your confession and culture over race. Nobody can object me to do the same. [/QUOTE]
Now where did I ever say that? I said I had no negative views towards the Greeks, largely because of our shared Eastern Christian heritage. Being a WN doesn't mean you have to hate all non-whites you know. In fact Doestovesky once said "that a true Russian is a friend to all nations". But since you're not Slavic(or denies being being Slavic), I guess you wouldn't understand that. I don't appreciate it when people try to put words in my mouth.
As for putting culture over race. Theres more to be being of European decent than just being white skinned. There is the cultural aspect and in my firm opinion it is of vital importance to the survival of the white European race. If our cultures are destroyed, frankly then all the purity of the white race is meaningless. As Danilevsky, Spengler, and others pointed out that culture is always superior to civilization. Culture is the basis for any true society. Without culture, you have no identity and without identity you have nothing. Otherwise you have a pathetic pan-white cosmopolitanism. You yourself said that you'd prefer the preservation of Croatian culture at the expense of Pan-Slavic unity.
2003-10-04 20:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Zvaci]Imaà ¡ dobro oko druà ¾e. :)
Hvala, i vama također.
:smoke:
[quote=Zvaci]Yes I would agree he has Mediterranean influence: He is not tall, his constitution is average, but I do notice some lines that remind me on dinaric man. Its hard to tell because paintings are not accurate like photography ... [/QUOTE]
Ne razumijem. He doesn't look it to me.
:huh:
2003-10-04 20:38 | User Profile
Ritter - change the extension of your signature file to .txt
2003-10-04 20:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Eendracht Maakt Mag]Ritter - change the extension of your signature file to .txt[/QUOTE]
err... host shut it down on me. Stupid sony, zipper-heads. Need to find new host now.
:furious:
2003-10-05 15:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201] I believe you meant to say [I]conquered[/I]. Now I like it how you glorify the senseless killing of Eastern Christians, which only furthered to drive the two factions of Christianity apart. [/QUOTE]
No, I just glorify victory. Now you are putting the words in my mouth. European sense of chivalry is not known to the Byzantines so I don't feel particularly sorry for them, and I have no doubt they would do the same or worse to some western city.
[QUOTE]In fact Doestovesky once said "that a true Russian is a friend to all nations". [/QUOTE]
Mentality of "broad Slavic soul" has so little to do with real politic.
[QUOTE]But since you're not Slavic(or denies being Slavic), I guess you wouldn't understand that.[/QUOTE]
I speak the Slavic language so I am Slavic (also very proud on my tongue). But what does it has to do with understanding Russian politic better?
[QUOTE]As for putting culture over race. Theres more to be being of European decent than just being white skinned. There is the cultural aspect and in my firm opinion it is of vital importance to the survival of the white European race. If our cultures are destroyed, frankly then all the purity of the white race is meaningless. As Danilevsky, Spengler, and others pointed out that culture is always superior to civilization. Culture is the basis for any true society. Without culture, you have no identity and without identity you have nothing. Otherwise you have a pathetic pan-white cosmopolitanism..[/QUOTE]
I agree but what culture are we speaking about in this case concretely? Modern post Byzantine culture is the culture of kebab makers, oriental music and balkanize primitivism. The Serbs was the agents of spreading this influence on my country. I shall always prefer West over this Eastern mixture of cultures and races. I am European 'Slav' from the territory of Western Roman Empire, not Serb of post-Byzantine culture. Its the fact that Middle European culture and the way of life is closer to me.
[QUOTE]You yourself said that you'd prefer the preservation of Croatian culture at the expense of Pan-Slavic unity.[/QUOTE]
Yes I did because I think there is no such thing as one Slavic culture or Slavic race in reality. Also because its not in the interest to nations like Slovenes, Slovaks, Croats. Its not in the interest to nations of bigger size like Polaks, Bulgarians and Czechs because ultimately they would be also consumed by biggest fish in the lake - Russia.
2003-10-05 19:55 | User Profile
How revolting: American tenis player,the Levantine Pete Sampras with the Aryan women: :thumbd:
2003-10-05 20:02 | User Profile
Not only that, Sampras is part Jewish.
The mongrelization of Amerikwa continues apace.
If you read the writings of the old National Socialists, they foresaw this happening. And they wrote at a time when America had eugenic and anti-miscegenation laws on its books, and when America was still 90 % White. However, all the seeds of America's destruction could already be seen even then by those who cared to really analyse the internal American dynamics.
[QUOTE=Zvaci]How revolting: American tenis player,the Levantine Pete Sampras with the Aryan women: :thumbd:[/QUOTE]
2003-10-05 20:19 | User Profile
I agree 100 percent with Zvaci and Fritz
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