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2003-09-24 18:10 | User Profile
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 9/24/03
Immigrant Freedom Rides roll
By YOLANDA RODRÃÂGUEZ The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
About 100 activists will roll into Atlanta from Houston in buses next week, bringing with them what they hope will be echoes of the civil rights movement's Freedom Rides of 1961.
This time the message is about immigrants' and workers' rights. Dubbed the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride, organizers of the national campaign say they are seeking a path to legalization for all immigrant workers and their families and protection of workers' rights on the job regardless of their legal status.
The two buses from Houston will stop in cities that were touchstones of the civil rights movement, including New Orleans, Jackson, Miss., and Montgomery, Birmingham and Anniston, Ala., before arriving Monday in Atlanta.
The project has garnered support from national civil rights figures such as U.S. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), one of the original Freedom Riders, the Rev. James Orange, an associate of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and the Rev. Joseph E. Lowery, a co-founder and former president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.
Lowery sees parallels
The civil rights struggles of decades ago and the present-day problems faced by millions of immigrants are connected, said Lowery, who is scheduled to speak Monday evening at a town hall meeting at the United Auto Workers Local 10 office on Buford Highway in Doraville.
"I'm trying to assure human rights for all God's children, particularly those living in this country," said Lowery, who heads the Georgia Coalition for the People's Agenda, a grass-roots organization whose mission includes a public watchdog role. "If companies are going to hire these people, they ought to pay decent wages. I think we ought to provide all people the opportunity that we and our ancestors wanted when we migrated here -- some of us willingly, some of us in chains. . . . I feel like everyone deserves human rights and justice and equal opportunity."
The idea for the national ride was born in the summer of 2001 at the annual conference of the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union, said David Koff, a spokesman for the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride.
Congress to be lobbied
Buses from nine other cities are wending their way to Washington, where riders -- illegal immigrants among them -- will meet with members of Congress and march Oct. 2 at Farragut Square. The riders will travel on to Flushing Meadow Park in Queens, N.Y., for a rally Oct. 4.
Behind the national movement are the AFL-CIO and a coalition of labor, religious and grass-roots organizations.
"The vulnerability of undocumented workers to exploitation is being recognized by other workers in the unions," Koff said. "Everyone is held down by the fact that our broken immigration system maintains a second-class work force."
For years the AFL-CIO had been among groups expressing concern about the influx of immigrants into the United States. But the growth of the immigrant labor force was among the factors that led to big labor making an about-face, and several unions have launched campaigns to recruit immigrants to boost their dwindling membership.
"These people are here. They pay taxes. They contribute to the economy," said Charlie Fleming, president of the Atlanta Labor Council of the AFL-CIO. Unions need to make sure their rights as workers are protected, he said.
Groups participating in the Atlanta events hope to highlight issues such as driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, workplace abuses and fraud perpetuated on immigrants.
"The driver's licenses is one of the most important issues," said Adelina Nicholls, vice president of the Coordinating Council of Latino Community Leaders.
Groups representing Caribbeans, Africans, Asians and other immigrants are also participating in Monday's events and a Latino civil rights forum is scheduled from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Saturday at Morehouse College to discuss some of the issues.
Last Saturday Agustin Torres handed out fliers to passers-by at Kim Long Plaza in Forest Park highlighting Monday's event.
"When I came here I was in constant fear. I thought the police were Immigration and were going to send me back," said Torres, 37, who came to the United States with a tourist visa in 1984 and never went back. He became a legal resident three years later through a federal amnesty program.
He has worked in construction and at restaurants in metro Atlanta. He recently started the nonprofit Latinos United in South Atlanta to help immigrants with their day-to-day problems.
"I don't forget what it was like," said Torres, who became a U.S. citizen in 1997.
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Too bad Iââ¬â¢m not head of the I.N.S. Iââ¬â¢d love to meet these worthies when they get to D.C. with a detachment of I.N.S. officers. I wonder if they will sing [I]We shall overcome[/I] in Spanish?
This nonsense is just one more reason why Southerners were correct to oppose the ââ¬Åcivil rights movementââ¬Â and the self-serving Jews who led it. It would be nice to know who is behind this. They list two pulpit prostitutes above, the ââ¬Åreverendsââ¬Â Orange and that dried of piece of crap Joseph Lowery, a man who once referred to Atlanta as ââ¬Åthe capital of the third world.ââ¬Â These clowns are nothing but frontmen. I would bet that one would find that Jews (Koff, I suspect is one) are behind this ââ¬Åmarch.ââ¬Â They have a knack for this sort of agitprop.
The civil rights struggles of decades ago and the present-day problems faced by millions of immigrants are connected, said Lowery, who is scheduled to speak Monday evening at a town hall meeting at the United Auto Workers Local 10 office on Buford Highway in Doraville.
Sure. The only thing these have in common is gaining power through votes. Lowery has made a career out of being a ââ¬Åcivil rightsââ¬Â whore. John Lewis has always been a dependable [I]shabbos goy[/I] for Jewish interests in turn for their support for meaningless things like a ââ¬Åcivil rightsââ¬Â museum, as if that is going to solve the problem of black crime in the ghetto he represents.
Groups participating in the Atlanta events hope to highlight issues such as driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, workplace abuses and fraud perpetuated on immigrants.
On this they can count of the help of the so-call ââ¬Åbusiness communityââ¬Â represented by the Georgia Chamber of Commerce and the local building lobby. Always putting profit ahead at the expense of nation.
The writer of this garbage is heavily involved in the local La Razaite community and of course, the paper here supports all of this.
2003-09-24 18:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]He recently started the nonprofit Latinos United in South Atlanta to help immigrants with their day-to-day problems.
Sert,
Looks to me like there's a real need for a 'Whites United in Greater Metro Atlanta', as well.
2003-09-24 19:32 | User Profile
A small group of stalwarts, 15 or so, were on hand this morning at the Reno INS office to "welcome" the 2 bus loads of riders. There were about 150 of them and their traitor supporters. It was amazing how many white and black people were with the mostly mexican crowd. They marched up to the office chanting slogans about how they wanted their "rights" and other garbage. "Si, se puede" (yes, we can) was shouted a bunch.
The federal police came over and told us the "riders" had a permit to be there, but we did not. But they weren't going to make us leave. Towards the end of the hour or so the traitors and their cohorts were there, probably 15 police from the Feds and Sparks came on the scene.
They set up a desk flanked by the US flag and had a PA system to make all their speeches. We told them they had the wrong flag, 95% of the rhetoric they had was in spanish. The Spanish media was well represented, 15 or so reporters and photographers. They interviewed several of the folks on our side. It will be interesting to see how it actually will be portrayed. Only channel 2 showed up from the local regular media. Alan was interviewed by channel 2, hopefully some of it will be aired.
There was no violence and they did not attempt to enter the office itself. One of our guys stood right by the front door. One of the federal police told him he had to move, and he told them "no," he was a citizen of the US and he could be on public property. He refused and they just walked away from him.
There was lots of shouting by our side, in retort for their ridiculous statements. One was about they wanted "family reunification." We told them to do that, but do it in Mexico where there families were. It was hard to answer a lot of their stuff, as it was in Spanish. So much for assimilation. Anyway, I wish there had been a better turnout, but what we lacked in numbers, we made up for in fervor.
2003-09-24 19:52 | User Profile
I saw Bustamante (CA governor candidate) ad on TV yesterday, where he made absolutely clear who he's counting to vote for him and who he represents: in the ad, out of several dozen people shown, only one could have possibly been white, the rest were clearly brown.
Whites will be stupid to vote for an open mestizo white-hating partisan who's not even hiding his contempt for white voters.
2003-09-24 22:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]I saw Bustamante (CA governor candidate) ad on TV yesterday, where he made absolutely clear who he's counting to vote for him and who he represents: in the ad, out of several dozen people shown, only one could have possibly been white, the rest were clearly brown.
Whites will be stupid to vote for an open mestizo white-hating partisan who's not even hiding his contempt for white voters.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, 98% of our fellow Whites could care less about Bustamante's views on Whites. They're afraid saying something about it would make them "racist".
2003-09-25 03:05 | User Profile
Texas Dissident,
We do have something like that. Unfortunately, it is waaay to the north of where I live. I believe that I am one of the few Southerners left in my area. Most everyone else is a deracinated white yuppie whose only concern is for their next cup of coffee from Starbuck's.
People outside of the metro Atlanta area are p.o. about this.
This story makes me think of the old joke about the bus going over a clift and what a "shame" is.
2003-09-25 03:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]**I saw Bustamante (CA governor candidate) ad on TV yesterday, where he made absolutely clear who he's counting to vote for him and who he represents: in the ad, out of several dozen people shown, only one could have possibly been white, the rest were clearly brown.
Whites will be stupid to vote for an open mestizo white-hating partisan who's not even hiding his contempt for white voters.[/QUOTE]**
I've seen the same ad, MR. This moron also has another ad in which he speaks about the other candidates, who don't live in the same "... world as we do!", and of course goes on to intimate that whites live in a world in which they are endowed with riches from birth, while 'everyone else' is street, actually has to work for things. How little they actually have to work for anything, as it is handed to them from the cash so easily confiscated from Mr. Whitey.
2003-09-25 05:56 | User Profile
Here is a good source to cite to prove the Kosher nature of the so-called Civil Rights Movement to the morons who simply will not believe what they read on all the "hate sites."
Listen to this, for starters. . .
From Cooperation to Conflict
During the 1950s and 1960s, Jews and African Americans were closely allied in the civil rights movement, and, indeed, Jews played a prominant role in the leadership of most, if not all of the major civil rights organizations. As noted earlier, Stanley Levinson, a Jewish attorney, was Dr. Martin Luther King's chief advisor. Kivie Kaplan, a retired Jewish businessman from Boston, served as president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and was, as well, one of Dr. King's major fund-raisers and financial contributors. Marvin Rich, another Jewish attorney, was the chief fund-raiser and key speech writer for James Farmer, head of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE). Rich was later succeeded by yet another Jewish attorney, Alan Gartner. Attorney Jack Greenberg headed the NAACP Legal Defense Fund after former Supreme Court Justice, Thurgood Marshall, was named to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals by President Lyndon Johnson.
More than half the white lawyers who made their services available to civil rights demonstrators in the South were Jews. Between half and three-quarters of the contributors to civil rights organizations - including the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), CORE, and Dr. King's Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) - were Jews. More than half the white freedom riders were Jews. Almost two-thirds of the whites who went into the South duringn the Freedom Summer of 1964 were Jews including, of course, Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman who, along with their black colleague James Chaney, were murdered by racist thugs in Mississippi.
Jewish intellectuals and journals of opinion that they controlled, including Commentary, spoke out forcefully on issues of civil rights. Jewish organizations such as the American Jewish Committee, the American Jewish Congress, and the Anti-Defamation League provided financial, legal, and organizational support for civil rights groups.
In the civil rights struggle, Jewish morality and Jewish interests pointed in the same direction. Morality dictated that Jews support the efforts of African Americans to free themselves from the apartheid system. To a generation of liberal Jews this was a supreme moral imperative. At the same time, however, many Jews and Jewish organizations, in particular, also recognized that they had an interest in supporting the civil rights movement. First, the goal of a society in which discrimination based on race was outlawed served the interests of Jews as much as - perhaps even more than - blacks. In the area of discriminatory legislation and practice in such areas as education and employment, Jews had every reason to believe that they could compete successfully and rise to the very top of American society. By supporting African Americans in the cause of civil rights, Jews were eliminating the barrieers that stood in their own way as well.
Morever, the political forces that the civil rights movement was attacking were the forces in American society that were also enemies of the Jews. Jews were aligned with the liberal, New Deal wing of the Democratic Party, [u]and the civil rights movement attacked and sought to discredit the conservative Southern wing of the party - a group that had been associated with the anti-Communist and anti-Semitic campaigns of the 1950s. Through participation in the civil rights movement, Jews were striking a blow against their own foes in the Democratic coalition as much as against the enemies of blacks. . .[/u]
Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State (Chicago, 1993), pp.145-47
2003-09-26 13:40 | User Profile
Trash from the L.A. Times on this nonsense. -S
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Migrant Rights on the Move By Frank del Olmo
September 21, 2003
Some very idealistic people will depart Los Angeles and other cities this week, heading cross-country on a quixotic bus journey in pursuit of what may seem a politically unlikely goal: legal status for the estimated 8 million to 10 million illegal immigrants living in this country.
Even a sympathetic observer like me ââ¬â who shares the view that honest and hard-working people should have their human rights respected despite their legal status ââ¬â regards that worthy goal as implausible, if not impossible, given the political climate in Washington.
National security remains a paramount concern of the White House, and President Bush has stopped talking about a guest-worker deal with Mexico or other immigration reforms. And the likelihood of even a modestly liberal immigration law from a Congress dominated by conservative Republicans looks dim.
Yet the historical precedents cited by the organizers of the so-called Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride are so powerful that it's hard to not take some hope in their effort. Their model is one of the most dramatic turning points of the civil rights movement of the 1960s: the freedom rides to protest the segregation of public transportation facilities in the South.
Although not as stark as the discrimination that African Americans suffered, many of today's immigrant workers face similar indignities. Their illegal status leaves them uncovered by minimum wage laws and other worker protections and prone to exploitation by employers, slumlords and criminals.
One of the leaders of the delegation from Los Angeles is a onetime Freedom Rider from Tennessee who has since become a powerful moral voice in this city, the Rev. James Lawson, pastor emeritus of Holman Methodist Church. A former colleague of the Rev. Martin Luther King, Holman sees his participation on behalf of immigrant workers as the continuation of a struggle that he and other Freedom Riders helped put on the nation's front pages.
"Back then we were trying to expose outdated Jim Crow laws," Lawson told me recently. "Now we are trying to expose outdated immigration laws." Other organizers of the immigrant freedom ride, which include several labor unions affiliated with the AFL-CIO and civil rights groups like the NAACP, stress the same point. They don't expect to change this country's hodgepodge of complex and often contradictory immigration laws overnight, but rather to push along the process of change.
Their timing may be good.
Immigrants' rights have become a key issue in the current California recall campaign. And there is an evolving consensus on Capitol Hill that the country's immigration system needs fixing. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and two House Republicans from Arizona, Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake, have introduced a bill to create a guest worker program for those industries, like agriculture and tourism, that need migrant workers to fill low-paying jobs that U.S. citizens won't take.
The immigrant freedom riders are concerned that the debate over the bill and other immigration reform proposals could be dominated by lobbies that want only an updated version of the bracero program, under which thousands of Mexican field hands were imported to work in this country during World War II and afterward, often under miserable conditions and for low wages. So they plan to lobby Congress for reform that includes a citizenship process for workers who pay taxes, new rules making it easier to reunite immigrants' families, labor law protections for immigrant workers and respect for civil rights and liberties.
Four decades after the original freedom rides, Lawson points out, it is easy to forget that they "were just an early step in a long struggle to dismantle a system of American apartheid. In fact, that struggle continued well into the 1970s, and in some areas continues to this very day." he said. "I see the same model here The freedom rides are just a beginning, not an end."
Coming from almost anyone else, such lofty idealism might be discounted. But I'm not about to underestimate a Freedom Rider.
Frank del Olmo is associate editor of The Times.
Copyright 2003 Los Angeles Times
2003-09-29 04:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE]The writer of this garbage is heavily involved in the local La Razaite community....[/QUOTE] And the name suggests she is a marrana.
2003-10-01 14:13 | User Profile
The saga of the modern "freedom riders" continues.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 9/30/03
Immigrants ride for rights
By YOLANDA RODRÃÂGUEZ The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Last week Edna Silvester boarded a bus and began a mission that -- so far -- has taken her and about 100 other community activists and immigrants through the history-laden towns of Selma, Montgomery, Birmingham and Anniston, Ala.
The group aboard two buses arrived in Atlanta on Monday singing "We Shall Overcome" and adding in Spanish "si, se puede" (loosely translated, "yes, we can") to the chorus.
Silvester, 59, is part of national campaign called the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride, reminiscent of the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. The campaign is calling for immigration reform that will open a path to legalization for immigrants already here, permit their families in foreign countries to join them, and protect the rights of workers, regardless of their legal status.
"All people that God has created should have equal rights," said Silvester, as she lunched in the brick-walled fellowship hall in the basement of historic Ebenezer Baptist Church on Auburn Avenue.
Silvester joined the riders, who started their journey in Houston, in her hometown of New Orleans, where in 1961 Freedom Riders tested a U.S. Supreme Court decision banning segregation at public transportation facilities. She was pregnant and unable to take part during that early struggle, but this time she was eager to join the cause that many of the riders and their supporters said is the civil rights issue of our era.
"I've worked with immigrants. I've had immigrants that lived in my home," said Silvester, a deputy sheriff in New Orleans. "And I think a road to citizenship for people with deep roots in this country -- that are paying taxes, that are trying to raise a family -- certainly should have the opportunity to become citizens in this great country."
Civil rights leaders have taken on the issue and came out in Atlanta to greet the riders, most of them from Mexico, Central America and Colombia. As part of the organizers' strategy, many of the participants would give only their first names -- a tactic that served riders from another bus convoy who were detained by immigration officials in west Texas last week. Immigration officials held those riders for three hours before letting them go.
Buses from 10 cities are heading toward Washington to meet with members of Congress and for rallies at Trafalgar Square in the capital. They will move from there to New York's Flushing Meadows Park later this week. The campaign is supported by a coalition of labor unions, religious groups and civil rights activists.
One of the riders, who gave just her first name, Amelia, said the trip has brought her many tears as she learned in detail the violence that civil rights leaders faced in the 1960s.
"I am contributing my little grain of sand to obtain freedom, reunification of families, civil rights and workers' rights," Amelia said in Spanish, after a brief wreath-laying ceremony at the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s crypt.
Martin Luther King III, son of the slain civil rights leader, was greeted warmly as he spoke to the group at Ebenezer Baptist Church from the pulpit where his father preached.
"He [Martin Luther King Jr.] used to say that the ultimate measure of man is not where he stands in times of comfort and convenience, but where he stands in times of challenge and controversy. On some questions, cowardice asks is a position safe. Expediency asks if a position is politic. Vanity asks is a position popular. But something deep inside our conscience asks is a position right. . . . That is why we are here today, because our consciences have told us that the policies around immigration are wrong and must be changed."
The riders and immigrants living in metro Atlanta joined for a march and town hall meeting in Doraville on Monday night. About two dozen counterprotesters greeted the group as it began its march on New Peachtree Road. Those demonstrators held signs that opposed granting rights to illegal immigrants. Police kept the groups apart and the march proceeded without incident.
-- Staff writer Saeed Ahmed contributed to this article.
The group aboard two buses arrived in Atlanta on Monday singing "We Shall Overcome" and adding in Spanish "si, se puede" (loosely translated, "yes, we can") to the chorus.
Why is it I'm not surprised by this. I wonder how long it will be before they sing this song in Yiddish.
The paper shows a photo of "Amelia," quoted below, with a note that her last name is being withheld. After all Yolanda Rodriguez is going to help here chicana sister get over on the evil gringo.
"I am contributing my little grain of sand to obtain freedom, reunification of families, civil rights and workers' rights," Amelia said in Spanish, after a brief wreath-laying ceremony at the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s crypt.
The hell you say. You're here because you are being paid for this b.s. These people are no different from the so-call "settlers" in the West Bank. They are nothing more than "sqautllers," in my opinion and share the same traits as those in Israel. They are here to rip everyone else off that is a citizen.
I'd love, but don't expect "our" government to get off it asses and arrest this border crossing trash and those that enable them as engaging in a criminal comspiracy, but they are too worried about the damned Iraqi border to worry about our own. -S