Confederate family history

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Roody

This is just a war by proxy on the remaining elements of Anglo-Saxondom in the United States. Yale attacks Calhoun, the University of Virginia attacks Jefferson. Each assault seems to be more furious than the last.

It's terrible to live through a time of iconoclasm, especially if you feel any connection to the icons being defaced. If it's any consolation, the removal of the monuments won't destroy the memory of Lee or Jackson or Stuart--people will always admire great men. One day Marse Robert and Stonewall will wake up in Lexington and ride down from the mountains onto Washington. Until then, we can take the advice of Allen Tate:

DochDochDoch

I grew up in a very liberal part of the country that was about as far culturally as you can get from the South, so I never really connected with the Confederacy in any way. Honestly, I viewed them with the proper snarky contempt expected of a hip, modern progressive, although I knew that my family had significant roots in the Confederacy. When my great grandmother died I was the only one who cared enough about family history to keep her photos and letters, and I found a memoir that she wrote chronicling the family's history, and it had many touching stories about their life in the Confederacy and afterwards. I didn't want to be a carpetbagger and wade into an issue that I didn't grow up with, as I am pretty sensitive to transplants meddling in my home region, but goddamn it, it's my flag too, my ancestors fought and died for it as well, I wish I had been able to go to these protests and good on the guys who showed up.

Tony
Isn't that the movie where Ferris Bueller dies at the end and his nigs get cut down?
AtlanticBrute

The only ancestor of mine to fight for the Confederacy was the mercenary George St Leger Grenfell - I invite you to read about him in the attached pdf, he led a fascinating and picaresque military career. From wikipedia:

George St. Leger Grenfell (May 30, 1808 – March 1868?) was a British soldier of fortune, of the Cornish family, who claimed to have fought in Algeria , in Morocco against the Barbary pirates , under Garibaldi in South America, in the Crimean War , and in the Sepoy Mutiny . Immigrating to the United States, he fought for the Confederacy during the American Civil War , and was a leader of a notorious plot to seize control of parts of the Northern U.S.

shkanamataee

I have a 3g-grandfather buried in Abbeville, LA, who served in the 3rd Louisiana Cavalry of the CSA. There wasn't much discussion of him beyond that because no one knew anything about him. As a matter of fact, when I was around 10 or so, we took a trip to the cemetery and walked all over just to find his grave. No one had been in so long nobody knew exactly where it was. In hindsight, I suppose we were lucky to even know which cemetery to go to in the first place.

I used to have a scanned copy of his family's request for a CSA grave marker but I seemed to have misplaced it.

https://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.c...y=1165&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=12299516&df=all&

auteur_theory
Radio Derb Transcript Up For May 12: America’s Cultural Revolution, Etc
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The Radio Derb Transcript is up–go here to read or listen –sample:

Watching TV news Thursday evening, they had an item about the statue of Jefferson Davis being removed from a public place in New Orleans.

Remarked Mrs. Derbyshire, quote: “Oh! It’s just like the Cultural Revolution!”

I should explain that Mrs. D was born in China i n 1962, and so was 14 years old when Mao Tse-tung’s Great Cultural Revolution ended, after massive civilizational destruction and untold numbers of dead. She has vivid memories of the whole thing.

And she is right, of course. This is the annihilation of a nation’s past, just as much as when Mao Tse-tung declared war on the Four Old Things ; or when the Taliban destroyed those great Buddha statues ; or when ISIS smashed up ancient Greek temples .

And why is this happening now? The Confederacy was defeated 152 years ago. Legal racial segregation was struck down 53 years ago. By forty years ago affirmative action and racial preferences were firmly in place everywhere. These statues of Confederate heroes still stood, and went on standing for decades more … until now, suddenly, they are intolerable.

Why are they more intolerable now than forty years ago, when we were forty years closer to legal slavery? This is just Goodwhite triumphalism, one side in the Cold Civil War jeering provocatively at the other side, the badwhites: rubbing their faces in the dirt, because they know they can.

The thing you used to hear from Americans, when I started listening thirty years ago, was that the Civil War was fought with courage and honor on both sides, with no spiteful intention by the leaders on either side to mock or humiliate the other. How we have fallen!
OrganicShadow

Here is a list of my ancestors that I know served in the Confederate Army...

Pvt John Calvin Sykes
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/...=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=19447171&df=all&

Pvt Elijah Washington Conner
Enlisted in the Confederate Army at Polinta, Northampton County, NC 12 June 1861 at the age of 31. He served as a private in Company "B," 9th Reg't N.C. Troops (1st Calvary)

Pvt Arodi Draper
Born in Northampton County and resided as a farmer prior to being conscripted in Wake County at age 25, July 15, 1862 for the war. Discharged at camp near Culpeper Court House, VA, December 10, 1862 by reason of "double hernia." Company K, 9th Regiment N.C. Troops, 1st Calvary.

Pvt William Treadaway
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28988792&ref=acom
Company L, 58th Regiment North Carolina Infantry

Pvt Owen Pope
Enlisted in Company F, North Carolina 48th Infantry Regiment on 21 Aug 1862. Mustered out on 22 Jun 1863.

Pvt Henry Blalock
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=62256029&ref=acom
Enlisted in Company I, North Carolina 52nd Infantry Regiment on 28 Apr 1862. Mustered out on 31 Jul 1862 at Richmond, VA.

Pvt Amos Vanhoy
Enlisted in Company K, North Carolina 28th Infantry Regiment on 07 Sep 1861. Mustered out on 09 Apr 1865 at Appomattox Court House, VA.

A few years ago I joined my local Sons of Confederate Veterans camp. I did not stay very long. Every meeting was started by saluting the American Flag and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. They seemed more proud of Black Confederate veterans than White veterans because it made the South look less racist. Everyone there was 50+ and grossly overweight.

What is the future of the South? All of our major cities are infested with blacks, other minorities, and Yankees fleeing from the North (L O L). I don't think the South can be preserved, and even if it could be, is it worth it? Southern culture used to represent aristocracy and stoicism, now its most recognizable characteristics are adipose tissue and diabetes. Tell me, Southerner, why should I not feel shame for my heritage.

auteur_theory
Lessons From New Orleans

May 19, 2017 Hunter Wallace American South , Anti-Southern , Anti-White , Diversity , Dixie , History , Identity , Louisiana , Lügenpresse , Negroes , Race Realism , Race Relations 44

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The League of the South has spent years warning about Southern cultural genocide .

Unlike our friends in the Southern heritage movement, Southern Nationalists do not believe we can coexist in a multiracial democracy. We do not believe we can preserve our Southern heritage while becoming a racial and cultural minority in our own lands. In every society, someone always rules. In the past, we ruled ourselves and erected public monuments to our forefathers. Today, we have decamped to the suburbs and have turned over the keys of our great cities to the negro.

As the Robert E. Lee monument comes down in New Orleans, I have compiled a list of the lessons we have learned from this episode. This is a verdict on multiracial democracy.

1.) Dylann Roof Didn’t Cause This

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Dylann Roof has nothing to do with this.

We have no reason to believe Dylann Roof ever visited New Orleans or Louisiana. Malcolm Suber, the black communist activist behind Take ‘Em Down NOLA , succeeded in getting the Orleans Parish School Board to rename George Washington Elementary School in the 1990s. In fact, the Orleans Parish School Board had renamed 27 public schools in New Orleans by 2005 .

Last September, Take ‘Em Down NOLA held a rally in New Orleans to tear down the Andrew Jackson statue . Malcolm Suber told The New York Times he wants to tear down the George Washington statue by the New Orleans Public Library . Take ‘Em Down NOLA also wants to either tear down or rename Tulane University, the World War I Memorial, the Andrew Jackson statue and dozens of other streets, schools, hospitals, universities and monuments in New Orleans . They also want $5 million dollars a year for an Africanization initiative called “Build ‘Em Up NOLA” which would “create jobs for black youth, erect historical markers to more accurately celebrate the city’s history, and support black artists and historians in creating narratives and images about that history.”

Yesterday, The New Republic published a fawning article on the black communists behind Take ‘Em Down NOLA which makes it clear that Charleston was only a “catalyst” which was used to advance a preexisting agenda. According to Michael “Quess” Moore, the Confederate monuments in New Orleans “were easier to stigmatize because they were all in the Confederacy.” The incipient Take Em’ Down NOLA group, however, had been meeting at the Robert E. Lee monument since Michael Brown was shot in Ferguson in 2014. They were educated by the black communists Malcolm Suber and Leon Waters who have been pushing their agenda in New Orleans since the 1980s and 1990s.

This is a racial power struggle. Malcolm Suber and Leon Waters are black communists. They frame their cause in terms of a 1811 slave revolt led by a Haitian slave driver .

2.) The Lügenpresse Creates False Anti-White Narratives

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In the wake of Charleston, the Lügenpresse created the narrative that Confederate monuments had to be removed and the Republican Party sprung into action across the South .

I said at the time that there was a racial double standard. This only happens on the rare occasions when Whites kill blacks as Dylann Roof did in Charleston. When blacks target and kill Whites, the Lügenpresse doesn’t create and drive anti-black narratives to remove black monuments. To cite just a few recent examples, anti-police and anti-white black supremacist shooters like Kori Allen Muhammad in Fresno , Ismaaiyl Brinsley in New York City , Vester Lee Flanagan II in Roanoke , Micah X. in Dallas and Cosmo Setepenra in Baton Rouge are treated as disturbed, isolated individuals rather than as representatives of their race or any leftwing political cause like Black Lives Matter.

When Muslim terrorists strike out and kill Whites in the name of jihad, the Lügenpresse is adamant that Islam is a religion of police and that Muslims are not to blame. In the rare instances when a White shooter like Dylann Roof kills blacks, White Southerners are held collectively responsible.

UPDATE: I’m told by Narrative Collapse that the Lügenpresse is ignoring a black-on-White spree shooting near Charleston that happened last Tuedsay .

3.) The Democratic Party Embraces The Leftwing Fringe

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Mayor Mitch Landrieu and the New Orleans City Council are enacting the agenda of black communists who support the Africanization of New Orleans. The Democratic Party embraces the radical leftwing fringe while hypocritically demanding that that the Republican Party disavow “extremists.” We see this all the time at rallies where Black Bloc anarchists and communists flying the Soviet flag stand in solidarity in crowds with their fellow Democrats who protect them from the police.

4.) Someone Always Rules

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In case you needed another reminder, black supremacists are behind the movement to remove Confederate monuments in New Orleans. They are driven by racial and cultural animus against White Southerners. The alternative to white supremacy in the past is black supremacy in the present. Naturally, the Lügenpresse ignores the “hate” which comes from their side.

5.) Black Confederates Are Nazi Scum Too

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It is not about you. How many times do we have to say it? These people hate you. They want to destroy your heritage. They even want to cause you physical harm.

As we saw in New Orleans, KK the Indian, Arlene Barnum and Black Rebel, all of whom are non-White monument defenders, were attacked by Antifa. They got multiple death threats. When I was briefly at the Jefferson Davis monument, I saw bicyclists speed by and hurl the worst kinds of abuse.

The Left can be as violent, racist and hateful as it wants while our side is strangely expected to look, behave, dress and associate like the church choir . The Left can mace elderly women, throw sucker punches and hurl rocks. They can spray paint “Black Power” on our monuments. They can attack police officers and be as nasty and vulgar as they want. They can welcome every extremist under the sun – black communists, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, New Black Panthers, Republic of New Afrika, etc. – into their ranks. They can form mobs and look like they just crawled out from underneath a rock!

Meanwhile, the Right will debate this or that person’s affiliations, the optics of the event, whether or not we have any “racists” in our ranks, whether it is a good thing to be associated with this or that person, the language that is used, whether there is any violence, etc. The Right does all this while the Left riots in the streets, busts windows, sets buildings on fire and violently attacks people.

New Orleans was the ultimate repudiation of Rainbow Confederates. These people do not care … that you are not a racist, that you are non-White, that you have non-White friends, non-White family members, that you are a nice, tolerant, decent and wonderful Christian. They do not care how many blacks fought for the Confederacy. All they know is that you are the enemy and it is all the same to them.

For the last time, it is not about you. It is about them. They are ideologically motivated black supremacists and militant communists and anarchists. They are going to behave this way regardless of what you say. They are going to be supported by the Democratic Party regardless of what you do. We have a bad habit of exaggerating the importance of what we say and do.

6.) Yes, Politics Is a Zero Sum Game

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I’m tired of hearing the talking point that “politics isn’t a zero sum game.” Yes, it is a zero sum game. The destruction of our monuments is as zero sum as it gets .

7.) Yes, It Is About Race


I’m sick and tired of hearing this canard as well.

Every single member of the Black Caucus opposed the monument bill in the Louisiana House. They walked in unison out of the House chamber. The removal of monuments in New Orleans and the renaming of schools, hospitals, universities, streets and buildings is totally about black identity politics, black racial consciousness, black political power and the agenda of Organized Blackness.

Yes, we should judge everyone as individuals. Yes, there are black individuals who support the monuments as well as White Southerners who oppose the monuments. At the same time though, we are more than individuals and racial identity is a real force in Louisiana politics.

Blacks never hesitate take their own side. Whites should take our side in politics as well.

8.) The Republican Party Is Useless

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After what happened with Gov. Nikki Haley and the Confederate Battle Flag in South Carolina, this much should have been obvious. The Republican Party, which is subservient to the Chamber of Commerce, has always wanted to erase our Southern heritage.

Republicans in the Louisiana House of Representatives passed a toothless monuments bill . This is another example of token gesture politics. The bill only formalizes the process of removing monuments in Louisiana. It wouldn’t have stopped New Orleans or Shreveport from removing Confederate monuments. Once again, Republicans want to get credit for doing something while doing nothing.

9.) The SCV Is Useless

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As we saw in New Orleans, the SCV didn’t show up to oppose Take ‘Em Down NOLA.

These people are Boomer conservatives. They busy themselves appealing to federal courts, state legislatures and city councils which are deaf to their cause. Strangely, they believe they can “defend our heritage” through legalistic means while simultaneously losing the culture.

It is a losing argument. The destruction of Confederate monuments is the logical and inevitable outcome of the SCV failing to morally defend the racial and cultural aspects of the Confederate cause. Instead of taking the hard road, they chose middle class “respectability” and have been defending disingenuous takes on history and attempting to prove they are not “racists” for the past thirty years.

10.) We Are Ultimately Responsible

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At the end of the day, this is our fault.

It is not a New Orleans problem. It is not even just a Southern problem. We can see the same problem all over the West and it stems from the same fundamental causes. We have become Nietzsche’s Last Man . The people of the West want to believe that politics will go away, that everyone can live together in peace and harmony with a full belly, that “race doesn’t matter” and other delusions.

We’re not the same men as our ancestors. Their culture was based on a sense of honor. They wouldn’t have tolerated such a disgrace. In contrast, our prosperity has made us weak. Liberal democracy has made us more individualistic and materialistic over time. The fact that we can be shamed into submission by mere words is a clue. Can you imagine the Confederate Army being defeated by accusations of “racism”? Why didn’t it ever occur to the slaves to accuse their masters of “racism”?

We have lost our sense of identity, our former morality and our religion too. We’ve degenerated into this highly individualistic, materialistic mass of soft trembling consumers. We’ve thrown away our real culture in exchange for this garbage on television. The White residents of New Orleans fled the rising tide of black crime to take up residence in the suburbs. Most of the people who support the Confederate monuments are afraid to come out and identify with their own cause in public.

In a sense, yes, it is about us. They have a stronger sense of racial identity than us. They are more assertive, organized, unified and confident. The opposition suffers from fewer delusions about politics. Their politicians are also generally faithful to the people they represent. As time goes on though, these people will continue to push but will steadily encounter more resistance. Whites will become less bashful about taking our own side in these disputes. We will become stronger, angrier, more unified and organized, more assertive and less captivated by delusions about race and politics. We will become less and less willing to support cuckservative politicians who fail to defend our interests once in office.

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The pendulum will swing back. Just as strong men create the conditions which lead to weak men, it is weak men who create the conditions which lead to the reemergence of strong men.
Content Creator

As a non-American the animosity between north and south is really baffling to me. Southerners really seem to be a victim of explicit "anti-whiteness" in the WN sense. Having met Americans from Illinois, Washington and Pennsylvania the real visceral hatred they have for the south is absurd. In Australia there is on the east coast a north/south division. The Australian north being analogous to the American south and our south your north etc. But we've never had a civil war and so while in the north we're the butt of some mischling TV hosts joke there isn't anything even remotely like what the American south gets. Any media depiction of a southerner is some slack jawed inbred. He's slurring his words like a retard and can barely add up. The yanks I've spoken to want to erase southern symbols because of their perceived "offensiveness". If the men who had southerners shoot at them and kill their friends could stomach confederate memorials surely 150 odd years down the track the wounds have healed a lot since then?

From my reading of events these statues had really just fallen into the backdrop over the years. I don't think even people who were conscious of their southern identity really gave these old statues decaying in a public park somewhere much thought. Dylann Roof using the Confederate flag in a bunch of pictures provided a casus belli for the usual suspects to take away those overt symbols of southern identity. Perhaps the clincher is that southern identity unlike northern is explicitly racial. Maybe some Americans can confirm for me my suspicion that since June 2015 southern v northern identities have become more "relevant". That is more in the spotlight and perhaps more conscious. I'm not saying there is going to be a second civil war, far from it, seeing as nobody wanted to get between a bulldozer and General Lee. However, I think those who would dig up history should be careful. They might just get buried under it.

Mireman

Who asked for snipers on rooftops during the removals?