Tech Nazi Halo

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Richard Hollywood

The only thing, realistically, that will save America is a massive crisis similar to and on the scale of the Russian Civil War.

Montesquieu has a great quote from his book on the Romans which likely applies to America's end:

perkunos
Women getting laid when they want to is commonplace; even fats and poors. Incel males are completely invisible to them. All women seem to suffer from the idea that they don't like "chads" and that there is a lock for every key -they simply like a different kind of chad. One with a guitar or lute or who pretends to be a novelist or herbal whatever. The 80% of males who do not have a lute: invisible.
Wyldawen
Verbal categorizations lumping boys wherever most convenient for the pet theory. Seems if they have anything at all that girls like, they're lumped as "chad." Shy lute boys are not chads. "incel" males are invisible when they stay inside completely silent and hopeless. For obvious reasons. How we gonna find you? If we stalk you in your forums, you'll rage out or something and spam with bad social theory about how we don't really like you. Incel theories are self fulfilling prophecies to the extreme.

No, women can't get laid whenever they want to. Ugly and older reclusive women are just as invisible. They get pent up and write gay fanfiction all over the internet a lot. But what Elliot wanted was more than to just get laid. He didn't want to hire a prostitute. At the root, he wanted a real connection beyond the physical act and so do those women. Yes, I'm accusing the "incels" of wanting something more than sex, with feeling. We all know they could buy the sex.
Broseph
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Wyldawen

Keep it classy, Broseph. Keep it classy.

Niccolo and Donkey
President Camacho
Nic already pointed this out but "nerds" are in many ways the diametric opposite of "artistic types". These two modern types may share a common denominator of being outcasts but for different reasons... the modern analog to the shy, emo/alt-rock/grungey/amateur art fag type that you encountered in the 1990s is probably more akin to the xanax and adderall-laden teens of the 2010s who are into Skrillex etc.

Re: the entire jock/nerd dichotomy, Thomas777's prescient take was insightful:
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=702592&postcount=5
Wyldawen

In the words of my patron saint, still seems are creating a tight menu and mistaking it for the meal itself. It's a self fulfilling prophecy, the way you are classifying everyone in your little anti-everything-but-grumpy-far-right subculture. Young boys will pick up on this and fuck themselves. "Nerds are different than artists, I identify as nerd, to keep my high school lump identity pure, I will shun things outside the nerd identity."

I stand by my belief that autists are shaman unable to flower in a secular materialist society that doesn't pick us up for that path, expecting us to ape other roles instead. That is, unless they can sell their art. Autists and artists go together quite fine. Those trying to believe there is a huge difference between nerd and artist might be those who are bitter they haven't picked up any art form and are only passively consuming it. Yes, creating stuff attracts girls. This is true throughout the animal kingdom where the male fluffs his colorful feathers out, sings and builds the nest to lure her in.

stigletz
Wyldawen

Throughout this entire thread you have insisted that you-- a female autist-- have actively sought "nerdy" or more-on-the-autistic-end-of-the-spectrum males, as your choice mates. You were cautioned that your personal projections of mate choice are not applicable to the female population at large, but you did not listen. So before I begin ranting about PUA and its adaptivity in the modern Western world, I want to dispell the hopelessly, wildly inaccurate belief that socially awkward males can act in accord with socially awkward females out of bilateral interest.

The grim reality is that some 40% of males will ever pass on their genes, while a staggering 80% of females will. Let that sink in for a minute. The hominid species as it currently exists has practically doubly more mothers than it does fathers, and this trend is only exacerbating. This is reflected in our DNA; in the greater genetic variance of matrilineal lines.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/09/040920063537.htm

Which is also confirmed by: http://investigativegenetics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2041-2223-5-13 ,
and http://www.livescience.com/47976-more-mothers-in-human-history.html .

This is the default; humanity's average. Polygamous societies will see this rate worsen for males. Current social trends in the West away from monogamy are exacerbating the overarching trend, and it's hitting young men like a ton of bricks.

The point is that PUA is an adaptive mode of reproductive strategy. Reproductive strategy is going to be vastly different for males than for females based off the premise that the egg is more valuable than the sperm. PUA -- which you say is harmful for insecure young men -- has contributed immensely to my overall happiness in life. It is lost generational wisdom. Yes, there have been a few sour apples (Rodgers), but those could be hinged to factors other than mere PUA content.

Look, you can go on all day about how women will fall in love with our little quirks and foibles, but a young man learns quickly and soul-crushingly that such Hollywood-induced delusions are far from reality. Life is not a romcom, Wyldawen. Women respond to behavioral cues-- it's as simple as that. That is the essence of what PUA bloggers like Roissy (and a few others, many of which are not worth a man's time) are teaching. The core of it is confidence. And I don't have to imbibe destructive levels of alcohol to deal with the real world. Yet here you are, telling us what is healthy! I should have hoped you'd known better, Wyldawen.

To become the best man you can be, is what it means to be a man. Not the macho frat boy boogeyman you have constructed. One can do this without abandoning their other interests.
Wyldawen

Being condescending with a shoddy pop science foundation is a definite reject, stigletz. Why? You're the kind of nerd who rejects us. You reject the women who are most like you because you're likely thinking of passing on your genes with an interchangable hottie and I'm thinking of who I'd enjoy playing and living with. This might not be true, but unfair assumptions aren't nice, are they? I'm a woman so I must think everything is a romcom rather than going by keeping my eyes open outside and watching what's happening. Condescending to me doesn't read as confident. If I react to cues, that just sets off my nonsexual predator mode.

I despise men with this attitude!

If it was your intent, you do get a troll point for the romcom comment. Yes, I'm "triggered" by the forced construction of all women to a stereotype when I had to deal with being the outcast all my life with the same shit autism communication problems Elliot faced. It's the same bullshit arguing with Gamergate claiming I must be into "Bejeweled" when I'm a lifelong RPG gamer and know women are all over the MMORPGs like Everquest.

It's doubtful that any real scientist would immediately extrapolate that women are rejecting most men with that research when the fact is that we can be forced to "pass on our genes" because we're the ones who get pregnant and men can avoid it if they wish. We're the carriers and for most of history, many died early. Complexity must be factored in instead of ignored to hold onto internet argument bludgeons. "Nerds" would have been weeded out of this gene pool long ago if it were the case that they are not important, wanted, needed as is. We like a guy who creates and knows what he's doing on some level. It tantalizes us and it takes many kinds. The successful human society has many roles to fill. We need shaman and explorers, which is what the currently angst-ridden "incel" batch is. Some of them are caged into boxes both against their will or stuck in self-induced inertia. Condescending douches on PUA theory are my one-night stands at best, not my loves. My love would think it out more and re-evaluate based on more, conflicting information. Simplified pop science isn't enough.

We are in a secular materialist society and so many autists are budding shaman. I'll (again) continue with this being the main problem. They aren't getting mentors who develop their unique skills with dignity. Tribal societies with faith would do this. Native American and indigenous societies, along with European folk societies, wouldn't cast out that kind of weirdo. He'd be snatched up for the spiritualist route. European societies need to get this back.