Russia's 'outsourced' jihadis come home

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Longface

I am sure the FSA thugs are a bunch of leftists with strong secular leanings lol. Sure Saudi Arabia isn't sectarian in its foreign policy(Hafith Al-Assad was very close to Saud, so was his son until 2006(during the Israeli war) when he described arab rulers as half-men.) but fear of Iran and Shias in the eastern provinces(more than 30 percent of the population) intices them to use secterianism and finance sunni jihadists. As for Lebanon, didn't you ever hear about the Saudi backed March 14 alliance.

I am sure you're not speaking of the professional scholars who barely speak arabic and get funded by Zionists.
Angocachi
The commanders and political leadership of the Syrian opposition clearly are secularists and say it, nay, advertise it.
The lowest ranks, the on the ground fighters, are a mix of ex-military, local volunteers, and Jihadist infilitrators. Some of them have begun defecting to the Jihadist organizations due in part to the FSA command being a foreign, secularist agency.

The Saudi military smashes any Shia in the GCC, no need for Jihadists.
Which Sunni Jihadists does Saud finance? Name the organization.

The overtly and overflowing Secularist March 14 Alliance?

I'm not arguing that Saud isn't doing everything it can to beat back the Shia power crescent in Iran, Iraq, Assad, the Houthis, Qatif, Hezbolah, and the Bahraini public. They are! But they are not backing Jihadists. The Saudi government has as its program the secularization of the Arab world so that it can do away with Shariah, rather than skirt it as it's been doing for decades. This is of course so that it can make profits in defiance of Islamic prohibitions and regulations without internal opposition pointing at their sin and shirk as grounds to overthrow them... the only grounds the Saudi people would support as legitimate.

I'm talking about guys like Scheuer who repeatedly blame American support for Israel for getting it attacked by Jihadists (some Zionist funded expert?). The scholars of the matter laugh at any notion that the Saudi royalty or the US government are behind Jihadists.
Most of the insistence that Saud or the US are behind Jihadists is an attempt by red camp outlets, Putin, Iran, Assad sympathizers, and anti-Hussein Obama-ites to kill public acceptance/support for what they're actually doing... using Secularists in the Muslim world to oust red camp proxies in the Shia crescent and get the rebound over Sunni Islamists.
Longface
The secularism of the Syrian opposition is a western sham. First they said it's a liberal led peaceful resistance movement(led by two women as I remember), then they said there are some jihadi groups but they're insignificant, then they said that the jihadis constitute more than half of the opposition, and now the're saying those jihadis are of the moderate type so no worries.


Well in Syria there is the Army of Islam, coalition of Saudi backed rebel groups which is headed by Zahran Aloush who is also the head of Liwa Al-Islam, a group that conducts joint operations with Al-Nusra. Syrian Islamic Liberation Font wich includes groups like Suqour Al-Sham, Farrouq, Tawhid, Liwa Daoud, Amr Ibn Al Aas...etc.

Led by Sunni Saad Hariri anti-Hizbullah anti-Iran pro GCC.

I am sure Saudi princes don't give a shit about Shariah but they will use all tools, including Jihadis, to secure their rule.
Angocachi
The Syrian insurgency is composed of groups that are Secular and groups that are Islamist. When the conflict started it was almost entirely defecting Syrian military and NATO backed secularists... But it has become dominated by Jihadists.

A very recent coalition which is already seen through as a Saudi plot to combat Al Qaeda. They don't administer according to Shariah as Al Qaeda does, or Saud would not get behind them. They're grape juice to Al Qaeda's red wine and are present precisely to keep Syria's Sunni under Secular administration should the FSA collapse or fail to hold the territory.

Yes Saud is very anti-Iran and anti-Shia. But again, this is an example that proves my point. There are plenty of Islamist Jihadists in Lebanon for Saud to back who would throw themselves in combat against Hezbollah and the Assadists... But Saud backs Saad Hariri!

But Jihadist have only made their rule less secure, never more. It's because Jihadists demand Shariah and Saud must throw it off that Saud is endangered by them... and would be retarded to back them. Which is why it won't even in fighting the Shia crescent.
Longface

I made it clear from the start that Saudis will support any form form of ideology if it will secure their rule. In the case of lebanon, a salafist government wouldn't be accepted by the largely secular people.

Saudis funded Osama's Afghani mujahedeen through makteb al-khadamet with 600 million dollars a year throughout the 80' s, and they were one of three countries(the others are UAE and Pakistan)who recognised Taliban's Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Why would they be afraid of shariah? They own almost all the ulama of islam, if one sheikh denounced them a hundred will renounce him and praise the wisdom of Khadem al-Haramein. Al-Qaeda didn't make any attack in Saudi Arabia since 1996. They only thrive in lawless regions and I would say that many of their fighters, after bin laden's death (especially in the middle east) have joined Saud for money.

Angocachi
Yet they back Jihadists in the heavily secular Balkans? Saud supports Secularists in all theaters.

Saudis did but not the monarchy. This is a point Scheuer emphasizes. Saud the US and Pakistan backed the secularist guerrillas in the Seven Party Alliance. MAK raised its funds by soliciting private donors who favored Islamist fighters.

To bribe the Taliban into doing as they have and skirt Shariah.

Saud's fear is that if they have an economic crisis and the people grow restless the masses won't listen to mosques and scholars that everyone knows are Saud bought. With Jihadist enclaves orbiting the Kingdom they'll turn into what Egypt has.