"The sole function of Europe is to be a museum" - Open Discussion

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Bob Dylan Roof
Joseph de Maistre's mixed reception in Russia suggests that Dostoevsky's attitude was widely held. Many Russians saw de Maistre as the Rousseau or Bacon of religious political reaction and were suspicious of his ultimate intentions. He was also highly influential on unorthodox authors like Tolstoy, who paraphrased a great deal from the St. Petersburg dialogs in War and Peace. I also remember reading a quote attributed to a prominent Russian literary figure that Maistre espoused everything in Christianity except charity.
Bronze Age Pervert

I got the same impression when I went to some parts of Western Europe; I thought these places were only inhabited out of vanity and habit. The people there live for nothing. It's an entirely small and small-souled kind of person who lives there, something that has been bred I believe by centuries of Christianity, quite deliberately, which culminates in the final intention of this doctrine, the modern form of democracy and liberalism and in particular the modern European. Therefore saying that Europe is abandoning Christianity and through this is abandoning its identity is a perversity, but an enjoyable one.

The guy in the video, which I only just watched, is plagiarizing Michel Houellebecq from his book The Map and the Territory. I recommend this book, very enjoyable; the end presents a future version of France that has become merely a tourist destination for Russian and Chinese tourists, providing them a very "authentic" experience of French life and cuisine. The rest of the book is about the career of an artist, and very enjoyable.

President Camacho
Spengler actually posits that "Pan-Slavism" is a Western-style political mask to justify the very same "Crusader Impulse" which draws the Orthodox soul to Constantinople.

It's true that some of the first rumblings of "pan-Slavism" started among disenchanted Slavs within the Austrian Empire (although I believe it was the Czechs, indoctrinated in Romanticism by German universities, that led the charge), but this was almost purely a literary phenomenon that didn't bear any real fruits. The only real actions that were taken in name of pan-Slavism were made by Russia (ie, going to war over Serbia).
Welund
Spengler seems to base this opinion on Dostoyevsky himself. According to the Spenglerian model Russia is a geographical-cultural entity that spans Eurasia and whose core is the plain. Though Spengler posits that a third Christianity will arise out of Russia, there isn't a necessary fact. On one hand the Russian church is rebounding. On the other, Orthodox Slavdom (which includes Romanians) is still fairly atheist. I think the Russian drive is not to expound Christianity but to absorb the entire world into Russianess ( their entire world, the near abroad ). In this model Russia was incapable of forming previously due to proximity and confusion with the West. In a very simple state policy drive this is the case. Russia is only now approximating geographical independence of what is a very insecure country (the Mackinder problem), which would in turn lead to the de facto domination of Eurasia.

Here is some "temple of all religions" alcohol rehab in Tatarstan which conclusively proves my point:
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In contrast to what Spengler wrote, it is actually America not Russia that is driven to Jerusalem. American focus on the Middle East is even obsessive LARPing. But Russia is in a close location to all religions, has made most of them state religions, and could easily become the seat of a new theology which has yet to be expounded. Its "crusade" is simply the reconquista of non-Atlantic powers, religions, lands. (If you start seeing Russia not as purely "White" and "Christian" but as something spawning from its geography spontaneously of relative barbarians not necessarily closely related to each other (maybe Tatars, maybe Chechens) the other picture starts to form.)

That or they are just a dead Westernized Balkan country with some cupolas.

The Western-American drive in contrast is in a quest to find its ultimate origins, hence the focus on the ant hill battles of remote peoples and the distant past through museums, alien sperm. What dark path this may lead them cannot be known.