Islamist Wave 2013 - Overview & Updates

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Angocachi

Meanwhile, Saud has been allowing the US to bomb and kill Al Qaeda in Yemen with a drone base in the kingdom. The US has always used Saud to capture, torture, and kill Salafis.



Angocachi

Fantastic article on Al Qaeda's current status. It doesn't cover everything but it drives home the point of the "metastasizing Al Qaeda", the "hydra Al Qaeda", and the "mother bird Al Qaeda". That is, Al Qaeda as a cancer that once suppressed in one place, pops up in another place, Al Qaeda as a monster that only grows more heads to replace those decapitated, and Zawahiri's Pakistani based Al Qaeda acting as an appointer of regional heads and setting policy for its satellites.

He's wrong, though, that Al Qaeda didn't expect the Arab Spring. OBL, Zawahiri, and other Al Qaeda leaders repeatedly predicted and called for an uprising in the Arab and wider Muslim world, in their videos and interviews. He's also wrong that these uprisings were non-violent. But Brookings and Saban are an Israeli operation in America lobbying the US to support Israel and Arab regimes against Salafis and Iranian backed Shia... so it must hold to the line of an AQ and Iran wholly alienated from the Arab public.

Again, he leaves out many of AQ's branches, but he doesn't have to detail everything. It's gotten a little difficult to summarize Al Qaeda's pieces on the global chessboard they've become so prevalent. The partnership between Zawahiri and OBL was in 2001 a few hundred guys with a few hundred million dollars contracting themselves to the Taliban while recruiting and training a handful of guys at a time to go off and hit specific targets, often failing. After 9/11 it was briefly a scattered bunch of men in the mountains as NATO bombs rained all around them. They owe so much to Zarqawi. If he hadn't proved to potential financiers and recruits that AQ was capable of the insurgency it demanded, they wouldn't have been able to set up in new theaters.

I have no clue what the US will do if AQ delivers a second 9/11. If America's response to 9/11 was to send all of NATO into Afghanistan on a ground war and over a decade of occupation because that was where AQ was confined, what will it be the next time? Will NATO invade and occupy a dozen countries? If the attack originates in Pakistan, Americans will demand the US military move into and hold the FATA/NWFP. If it originates in Iraq is America going back, and what will the Republicans do to Obama for overseeing the withdrawal? If it comes out of Syria, or the Sinai, or Libya? What if it comes out of several theaters, the attackers trained in camps spanning the AQ-sphere.

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Angocachi
Sunni vs Shia in Lebanon. Hezbollah's next war will be with defecting Sunni soldiers and Salafi militants in Lebanon.



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Angocachi

There are big Islamist and anti-Islamist demonstrations in several countries right now; Bangladesh, Tunisia, Egypt, etc. But the growing unrest in Indian Kashmir is the only one that can spark an armed conflict, so here's an article fleshing it out.

Kashmir is a beautiful country.

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Following independence from the British, India's Muslim majority regions split off to form Pakistan, from which Bangladesh later split. Kashmir had a slim Muslim majority but the ruler was Hindu. Pakistan and Kashmiri Muslims attempted to annex it to Pakistan, but the ruler signed with India... birthing the conflict.

Administration of Kashmir is important to India and Pakistan because they are both water starved states. They need the fresh water that originates in the Kashmiri mountains for their agricultural, hydroelectric, and drinking needs. It's the same reason China insists on holding Tibet, BTW.
Theo

Ango, are you a traditionalist?

Theo

Then your support for traditionalist Muslim elements seems puzzling. If I interprete it correctly.

Angocachi
I'm not supporting anybody, but I'm pleased to see secularism pushed back anywhere. The 20th century will be remembered in history for the secular avalanche, seeing a dramatic rise in the ratio of irreligious people to religious, and among the religious a sharp drop in the ratio of zealots to loose adherents, and the removal of religious creed from law and all institutions... even the churches, mosques, temples, and synagogues have been reduced to museums and social clubs, rather than instruments of divine writ.

The Muslim world is having a series of backlashes, against Kemal in Turkey, the Shah in Iran, the warlords in Somalia and Afghanistan, foreign capitals, etc. This thread is a focus on that backlash.
Angocachi

Malaysia's upcoming election, which looks likely to empower Islamists.

Angocachi
rust

Will Benghazi matter that much to anyone in 2016 -- I somehow doubt it. Unlikely that it will even be remembered by most Americans in six months. If anything, Clinton's melodramatic fist pounding and crocodile tears was seen by more than a few as a courageous acknowledgment of responsibility.