Prometheus - Reviews & Discussion

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President Camacho
Roland YES. Fear--not the base fear of an animal under pursuit from a predator, but the quintessentially human fear of the unknown -- is the creative catalyst of all cosmogonies... As Spengler remarks, the Doric temple and the Romanesque cathedral porches that arose at the dawn of their respective cultures are not "art" that's created for the aesthetic amusement of their builders, but rather manifestations of "fear turned to stone".

I notice in some reviews of the movie, people remark about how David displays a bevy of human feelings such as curiosity, love, happiness, etc. But the one feeling he is definitively lacking is fear. He demonstrates this during his relentless pursuit to unlock the Engineers' secrets within their base, without any consideration of the horrors that may arise from his discoveries. And it's embodied most splendidly when his severed head registers only a sort of disappointment and confusion upon being unexpectedly torn off by the enraged engineer.

Scott's Nexus 6's, by contrast, do have the capacity for this world-dread and sense of cosmic tragedy, and we can ascribe this to their human-like limited lifespan. Roy Batty's consciousness of his own mortality impels him to conjure the godhead and search for his place within the cosmogony, whereas David's immortality precludes him from doing so.
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Welund
We in the year 2016 can only guess what this photograph once was.
Inkarri
It was quite an awesome and amazing photograph. You really missed out.
Welund
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Is there an Alien: Covenant thread? If so, move this post there. Continuing with the Spenglerian interpretation President Camacho

Alien: Covenant confirms Byssus's interpretation of David's character. Although he is immortal and should not experience Spenglerian Dread, the the film emphasizes that David is a reflection of Weyland and his imperfections (evidenced by the first scene and David's misattribution of a literary quote). Thus, rather than embodying Spengler's Autumnal bugman, David embodies Weyland's primitive Dread (unlike his more advanced counterpart) and is compelled to bridle the outer world through repetition of his own creation. His conjuring act is not strictly Spenglerian, however, as his expressed desire to exterminate weak humans suggests a more conscious resentment or desire to self-overcome. His bridling becomes creative as he simultaneously destroys and becomes god, which is underscored by the use of Das Rheingold in the film.

We should also note that the Engineers are no longer depicted as muscular Aryans but rather hooked-nosed philosophers, shortly before David GASSES them with their own creation.

Welund
I wasn't aware that this was a Prometheus sequel. I thought it was just another Ripley type installment.
Welund
Will this be answered in Prometheus 3?
perkunos

Prometheus was an unbelievably shit tier movie. Like most modern movies it looks OK if you like looking at phony CGI special effects. Like most modern movies, it had the acting, plot and characterization of celery.
It was a lousy prequel to a movie which was actually creative and interesting and resonant on many levels, which used and presented to the public the visions of a great artist (Giger) and utilized reasonably good actors and pacing. All Prometheus did was close down some mysteries of that movie to please sperg lords who wanted to know what the "Space Jockey" in alien was. It rehashed most of the interesting events in the first movie, badly, and was a complete waste of time. They couldn't even get the physics of a fucking rolling horseshoe shaped flying saucer right (or the common sense of the characters to run like, perpendicular to the thing). I mean, c'mon the most memorable character is the freaking robot guy. The most memorable "event" was what? I can't remember anything that happened in it other than an "engineer" drinking poop at the beginning.
This wasn't even as good as a 5th rate Dr. Who episode from the Tom Baker era.

RedHand
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These movies could have been much better given the themes they (rather tentatively) explored. I felt like they really got bogged down by the things Hollywood films simply have to have. Petty personal angles, "banter" and "badass" but sexy female characters (Charlize Theron is just eye candy) who are never quite believable. 6/10