An argument for more immigration into Canada

nuclear launch detected Wednesday 12 Oct 2011

niccolo and donkey said: ↑

If the economy tanks, it tanks. But Canada simply won't see blood feuds from overseas replicated over here for the simple fact that the conditons are entirely different. Tamils and Singhalese won't be fighting a war in Canada over who rules over Tamil-majority land in Sri Lanka. Serbs and Croatians won't be killing each other in Canada to decide where the border should be between the two of them...and so on.

These are all transplanted populations who once they are over here lack the conditions to import those long-running conflicts.

As for "balkanization" in Canada, the only fault line is that of Quebec with the rest. There are no other significant ethnic enclaves. Even francophone communities in Ontario and New Brunswick have never considered trying to attach themselves to an independent Quebec.

They might not slaughter each other but if there ever was a Japanese like earthquake/tsunami in Canada I doubt tamils and sri lankans will form the community cohesion needed to quickly recover from such an event. I also doubt these blood feuds suddenly evaporate once they step onto canadian soil.

Errigal Wednesday 12 Oct 2011

The point is not whether Old World feuds will be imported to Canada but whether a greater and greater sense of alienation and atomisation will develop in the cities; feelings of solidarity and the benefits of a common culture will fade away and the ability of communities and groups of people to resist corporate and state bullying will decrease.

Niccolo and Donkey Saturday 15 Oct 2011

Nordic Norm nuclear launch detected Concentrate SteamshipTime

Sweden’s big immigration idea: the ‘Canada model'

But in recent months, the tables have turned. Policy circles in Stockholm have been dominated with talk of adopting “the Canada model.” That, in fact, is the title of a widely discussed new Swedish book titled Kanadamodellen – “The Canada Model,” which urges Sweden’s governments to start making things look more like their Nordic fellow on the other side of the Atlantic.

“We looked at Canada, and we saw that it worked – even though Canadians don’t always say this, from a Swedish perspective we felt that Canada is a model that should be followed,” said Martin Adahl, one of the book’s editors and a fellow with the Stockholm think tank FORES , as he visited London to discuss his ideas with a bemused group of British and Canadian scholars.

Specifically, the book’s editors are part of a growing group of Swedes that wants its government to adopt Canada’s immigration system – including its high numbers, its points-based recruitment scheme and its ethnic networks of support in major cities that help new immigrants find employment.

Its subtitle is, tellingly, “How immigration leads to work,” which explains the obsession with Canada: In Sweden, immigrants – the largest group of whom are refugees – are typically unemployed, marginalized and far poorer than the native-born population. This has led to alarming political tensions over immigration in this formerly very placid nation.

In Canada, by contrast, the employment rate among the foreign-born (about 70 per cent) is higher than that among native-born Canadians, most immigrants are economic (refugees make up a negligibly small slice of Canadian immigration), and the majority of Canadians say they are satisfied both with the ethnic mix and the levels of immigration.

Broseph Saturday 15 Oct 2011

This is a reason to restrict immigration.

Team Zissou Sunday 16 Oct 2011

Correct. Bowling alone.

Errigal Sunday 16 Oct 2011

It's really quite funny how the Globe & Mail just keeps on insisting that Canada's immigration policy is humming along when time after time the readers' comments section is packed with people saying the opposite. Really funny and and also disturbing the way insane behaviour is often both at the same time.

Team Zissou Sunday 16 Oct 2011

Canadians are full of shit on immigration. Their dirty little secret is they de facto restrict for IQ. Where they don't the results are the same as anywhere else. How are the First Nations doing? Imagine one million indigenous Americans coming across your border every year. Also, my impression is that Canada's higher IQ Oriental and Middle Eastern immigrants devote a good deal of their talents to figuring out how to avoid being net tax payors. I don't see them putting their shoulder to the weal for a bunch of childless Anglos and Francophones.

Bohdan Khmelnytsky Tuesday 18 Oct 2011

This is why we must make new Canadians, Canadian.

The Tories realize two things about immigrants - they came here for freedom and financial success, and they are socially conservative. This fits right into our party. We now only have the task of demonstrating that it was British political traditions and developments that gave them this new found freedom, and that plenty of Canadians share their social conservatism.

Look at developments with CIC and Minister Kenney. Look at the new citizenship guides, and editing of citizenship ceremonies. Men in power are quite aware of this and want to ensure that immigrants are bound together by a common British-Canadian identity. Recently the Tories have been stressing our unique foundations as a nation and especially our relationship to the British Monarchy.

The success of the Kate and William visit wasn't simply because people we're fawning over popular icons, although that did happen it wouldn't have been possible if it were not for a shrewdly calculated event created by the Tories that began years ago.

People are also aware that certain communities make much better immigrants than others. We need to be more selective in who comes to this country. One way the tories have been able to achieve this is to stress the economic capabilities of new immigrants. Educated and productive immigrants tend to come from certain countries and they tend to share our values.

To paraphrase Minister Kenney at the conservative convention this year "Unlike the liberals we recognize the identity of our Dominion is founded not on the principles of 68, but on the Magna Carta. Not on constructed modern social concepts, but the British political traditions that founded this Confederation".

The only real problem is all the bleeding libertarians and social liberals in the party. It's the cost of being a big tent party and trying to become the new natural governing party, I suppouse.

Bohdan Khmelnytsky Tuesday 18 Oct 2011

We are receiving these high IQ immigrants because we are seeking them out, albeit in a covert way.

That they "avoid" taxes by legitimate means is a good thing. That's what any good Anglo-Canadian worth his salt should be doing. Those same immigrants that don't want to pay their taxes also want a fiscally responsible and efficient government.If they don't make that connection, they should. The tories are helping them to draw the dots, so to speak.

Niccolo and Donkey Tuesday 18 Oct 2011

What's a Canadian? I don't know what it is nor do I ever have any intention of being one. What are its binding institutions? You've touched upon the Monarchy, but that is barely present. The CBC is an empty shell. Hockey and Tim Horton's?

An argument for more immigration into Canada

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