Chinese Homebuyers Spreading Wealth Make Vancouver Pricier Than Manhattan

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illest DUCE
Having lived among the Chinese in university for the past several years, I can't shake my sneaking suspicion of them. This mass purchasing of real estate isn't just occurring in Vancouver, but all along the Pacific Rim. It's happening in California, in Australia, and I presume in parts of Washington and Oregon.

While this phenomenon might be explained by Chinese investors seeking tangible assets to put their wealth into amidst global uncertainty, the locations of these assets have me concerned. Who is to say that these large Chinese communities that have formed throughout the Pacific couldn't become forward operating bases for the Chinese government in the event of some global conflict?

This could just be paranoia, albeit justified considering how skillfully the Chinese diaspora is playing "the game", e.g., taking top university spots, high prestige jobs, in the West.

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Niccolo and Donkey
I'm convinced (and there is evidence) that the three biggest reasons for Chinese settlement in these areas are the following:

1. to spread Chinese influence by way of numbers/economic power
2. to engage in industrial espionage, which requires a good cover
3. to offshore embezzled money
illest DUCE
I've observed 2. myself. My university's research labs and TA positions were all filled with Chinese international students. Many didn't even speak English. Their conduct in lab (falsifying data, lack of English language skills) is the reason I've begun to doubt most 'academic science.'
Broseph
Chinese Media Is Now Warning Canada’s Housing Crash Will Be Worse Than The US

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Broseph

Reading some comments and Facebook posts.... Canadians are now getting woke to the (((CMHC))) pyramid scheme. :agree:

Vancouver update. Check out the last page for a nice graph:
http://www.rebgv.org/sites/default/files/9. REBGV Stats Pkg September 2016-3.pdf

The price looks to bump up at the end, and that's because it does. Fall season usually sees and uptick. What's not shown in the graph is that the number of sales in September are down 31% YoY

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A friend sent me this photo. The Chinese are buying up property all across the Pacific. I was told that in Australia the property is as a rule more expensive towards the city, cheaper further from it (no "inner city youths" to drag down property value). What is happening is that Chinese investors are buying up literally whole streets - then leaving the houses untenanted. Why? Because as more people get price gouged (no prizes for who is behind that) out of the inner city they will have to move to the suburbs. Mr Wong will then be able to pick and choose who can buy and rent, as well as at what price. This same friend watched his whole suburban street get bought out by a Chinese property firm. The old pensioners who lived there couldn't refuse. Imagine two million dollars + for a brick three bedroom home. However exclusively Han Chinese people moved in. An acquaintance from Vancouver told me that was how it happened to them.

A semi-related Middle Kingdom meddling story comes from an uncle who works in the mining industry. He told me that coke and iron ore sales have been "out of kilter". When he went to China in 2012 he says he saw the Chinese dumping Australian iron ore into the sea! Are they trying to deplete Australia of resources inch by inch? Are they trying to raise the value of their own extensive reserves? Who can say what their game is. I can only guess. All I know is that they're planning way further ahead than our xanax powered ruling class.

Augusto Pinochet
I see the flood of Chinese money into Australia, Canada, the U.S., etc. as a sign of weakness rather than strength. China is such a corrupt, dysfunctional dump that any Chinese person who gets rich wants to get as much money as possible out of the country. That's really what's driving their investment in foreign property.

I don't want Chinese people immigrating to western countries. I don't want them buying up real estate as absentee owners, either, because it creates artificial housing shortages and inhibits family formation. But I think fears of a yellow peril are misplaced.

In the 1980s, Japan had a debt-fueled investment bubble that was a lot like what's happening in China now. Toward the end of the '80s, the Japs started buying trophy properties in the U.S. At the time many people saw it as a sign of Japan's inexorable rise, but it turned out that they were buying at the peak, and they got hosed, selling most of their acquisitions at big losses years later.

A Japanese company bought Rockefeller Center in 1989 and ended up losing all their money over the next 6 years:
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/12/business/japanese-scrap-2-billion-stake-in-rockefeller.html
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